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10-24-2009, 09:27 AM
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Shut up and Fish
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Northern Schwarzenegger
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Wow I just drove from Springfield to Poplar Bluff and never once saw a Mexican.......there were 2 van fulls at the gas station where I got some coffee in California.
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10-24-2009, 11:10 AM
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Senior Member
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: N. Cal
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I seem to remember hearing there have been issues with illegals around some of the areas with processing plants. I think St. Joe and California, in Missouri of course, are two of the places I've heard. I could be wrong.
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10-25-2009, 02:11 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Springfield
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Several years ago I met a database consultant that traveled to the middle east several times a year for consulting projects. Although he wasn't exactly an "illegal alien" he was treated about the same. However, in spite of the emotional challenges, he continued to go back because for him the money was fantastic. He worked for rich oil executives developing databases related to oil production and though they treated him like crap most of the time they paid him the hourly equivalent of a little over $100,000 a year. Consider this though - they were all millionaires and to them he was "immigrant labor" working for peanuts. Sure, they have local, "legal" database consultants in the middle east, but none of them want to work for $100,000 a year.
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10-25-2009, 05:07 PM
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Junior Member
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Nixa
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GeekOfTheOzarks
Several years ago I met a database consultant that traveled to the middle east several times a year for consulting projects. Although he wasn't exactly an "illegal alien" he was treated about the same. However, in spite of the emotional challenges, he continued to go back because for him the money was fantastic. He worked for rich oil executives developing databases related to oil production and though they treated him like crap most of the time they paid him the hourly equivalent of a little over $100,000 a year. Consider this though - they were all millionaires and to them he was "immigrant labor" working for peanuts. Sure, they have local, "legal" database consultants in the middle east, but none of them want to work for $100,000 a year.
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So he entered another country with a work visa approved by the country in
advance. (nice)
I'm sure he didn't take 20 million friends with him illegally, or they would
have done more than treat him like crap! ;-)
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10-26-2009, 01:30 PM
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Senior Member
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: South America for the moment on Contract
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It seems that if you have no education, a criminal record a long as your arm, know how to row on a inner-tube/ barrel / piece of wood/ can pay a coyote/ are HIV positive, don't speak English, then you're an excellent candidate for legal entry into Miami, - as has been shown by the past influx of illegals into the USA.
However, if you do have an education, have paid taxes in your own country, have no criminal record, are healthy in mind and body, can be productive, speak English fluently, and want to follow and support American Law, way-of-life, and be legally accepted in the country, then this is not only an expensive pass time, but may also be refused entry.
For those who wish to enter legally and with have all the right conditions to be upstanding and worthwhile new immigrants, things are slow, expensive, time consuming, and humiliating.
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10-31-2009, 10:24 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: TX Panhandle
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Its always a two-way street. Illegal means ILLEGAL. I am not allowed to break the U.S. laws without consequence and neither should anyone else. I am in TX now. Good business owners say all you have to do is not hire them and you can use e-verify and in five minutes, you know for sure. Yes, they are taken advantage of but they are just as wrong because they have no business here if they are not legal. Try working in MX illegally and see how long you are in jail and you may not live long enough to get out. Fact is, one political party wants to look the other way and the other political party wants to cater to them for votes - so this situation isn't changing. Plus, I have many many Mexican friends who are legally here and feel exactly the same way.
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10-31-2009, 05:20 PM
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Senior Member
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Rolla, Phelps County, Ozarks, Missouri
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I have a German friend who moved here legally from Germany and followed the legal, time-consuming and expensive process to become a citizen. She's adamant that Mexican immigrants not be given amnesty; she wants to kick them all out of her adopted country and make them come back in with an orderly process. She's also angry every time she sees signs in both English and Spanish. "Why not German?" she asks.
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11-02-2009, 07:28 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Hillbilly Land
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An ahem, undocumented entrant committed a senseless murder southeast of Springfield awhile back but local media, broadcast and print, is typical of the media across the land.
Scant coverage and attempted to be swept under the rug as quickly as possible.
As an Anglo who attended a cell meeting of the Brown Berets in 1971 inside a migrant labor camp not far from Berkeley California I am well-aware of the many hazards posed to the once-sovereign USA by an immense invasion of "entrants" unlike entrants of the past.
Demands to assimilate to the entering culture. Using political correctness to alter citizen emotions and beliefs, especially those citizens not living in an area to witness first-hand what is invading us relentlessly.
Especially destructive, in my opinion, is the harm done to America's working-poor socio-economic class.
Ample information upon the Web.
The vested interests and power structures within the USA do not want the masses to know reality.
There is a growing number of refugees from California and other border states.
Those folks are spreading the word.
Sadly, I believe the damage already done will continue and the USA has been altered beyond repair and the damage is growing exponentially.
And, the "entrant's" numbers in south-western Missouri may be relatively small compared to other areas of the country those in the know, who know "it" when they see "it," the number of entrants in this area is growing.
May whatever creator being you believe in have mercy on us. Especially those without the wealth to distance themselves from a culture that can only create the type of country below our southern border.
Therein lay oligarchies. The possible future and desired by some classes of the USA.
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