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Old 07-01-2014, 05:26 AM
 
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Hello - my husband and i are considering a move to sun river st george. I have read several threads and some of the info is a few years old - so i wanted to get some newer info. My questions are:

1- blue clay - is this an issue in sun river and if so - is it the entire community? What do we look for or ask for to know we won't have a problem?

2- hoa - i have seen some comments that make me think it is overly restrictive. One comment said you cannot have the garage door open more than a foot. Does this mean you cannot leave it open while working in the garage? Are there other unusual restrictions? We have an hoa where we are now but they are not that involved.

3- there was a mention of a freeway reroute. What is the impact on sunriver?

4- New airport noise - is there flight noise at sun river now that the airport has moved?

5- we are not church goers and wonder if that will make us outsiders.

6- Healthcare - we will be on medicare. Should we expect a problem finding a primary care physician and getting specialist care?

We expect to be active retirees and love many of the activities offered at sun lakes. We have visited st george many times but visiting is different from living there. We live in phoenix now but it is very congested and spread out and the air quality has gotten bad.

Any help is greatly appreciated.
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Old 07-01-2014, 09:44 AM
 
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1. Don't know about blue clay - but that would mean sinking, and don't know if anyone has had that problem.

2. Yes HOA is restrictive. Friends have told me about many "little" things - garage doors only open a foot...even if you are working out there...which is by the way also restricted.

3. I don't see any problems with freeway. But hopefully someone will post about that!

4. Airport has 2 flights in and out (major aircraft) a day - don't see it as problem

5. Most of St. George is Mormon - but less in Sun River since people are from all over and not always Mormon.

6. Medicare is used here all the time, not sure what dr.'s are taking new patients, but I am sure there would not be a problem.

If you don't want the restrictions of Sun River, you might consider other places around. Yes Sun River has many activities, but again, super restrictive and some of the older (yes I'm older btw...ha) residents have nothing better to do than "tattle" on someone not following the rules. I know one of our friends told me about some "busybody" that carrys a camera on her walks...in case she see something "not allowed", including a vehicle parked in the street too long.

Good luck!
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Old 07-01-2014, 02:57 PM
 
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I can tell you, based upon my experience of living in Laguna Woods, CA., that the older a large over 55 active community becomes the more resistance there is in paying the necessary HOA fees to keep the community first rate
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Old 07-02-2014, 09:02 AM
 
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Thanks so much for the info. My impression is that it is easier to sell a house in a "regular" community so a mistake is a bigger problem.

I am guessing that this results in a stable group of folks aging together so i can see that the average age in the community would rise and this could lead to the result flaglerwrangler mentioned. We like the idea of the active adult community so we will likely have to take that chance somewhere.

Kcoliver - a follow up question. My real question about religion is whether it leads to cliques or exclusionary type treatment. We do not have family in st. George and would want to make good friends within a new community. We seem to share a lot of interests given the activities available so i am sure we would meet lots of folks and i would hope form closer friendships with some.

Regarding the restrictions - i will need to make sure i know them before we buy.

For example - can you have your own hot tub in your backyard? I can live with the garage thing but i do find it bothersome that some go out of their way to tattle on others. I am assuming that is a small minority of the residents.

Any additional info would also be appreciated.

we might decide to rent before buying. Is renting allowed with the hoa?

cheers
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Old 07-02-2014, 09:00 PM
 
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I can handle whatever the religious issues may be because I am comfortable enough in my own beliefs .We are going to move to Sky Mountain because we do not want the ordeal of living with the elderly busybodies or the mindset of deprivation rather than abundance that we have found to be overwhelming in an active adult community.
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Old 07-02-2014, 11:04 PM
 
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Hi again - we have never lived in an active adult community. We have an hoa where we live but it is not very intrusive. We are fortunate to have really nice neighbors.

The activities appeal to us because we play tennis, pickleball, and bridge. We love to hike. I do pottery. Seems like all those things are available without long drives.

I never heard of sky mountain. I had a friend that moved from California to Hurricane about 20 years ago. I am sure it was quite different then. They felt excluded and moved back to California. Their experience has left an impression on me / but I think things have changed a lot since then. We love the area so we are hoping it will work out.

I guess I don't understand the busybody mentality so that is coming as a surprised to me.

And additional info will be appreciated. It is a big decision.

Cheers
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Old 07-03-2014, 01:09 PM
 
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Moved here 9 years ago...still feel excluded, but as mentioned before, things are changing. Being excluded is our fault, we just don't want to participate in programs that are basically around the Mormon church. (we are not LDS). But I must admit I would NEVER move back to Calif, too much traffic, too many issues. This place is low crime, mostly nice people (yes - nice people). You can't pick your neighbors, but you can walk the neighborhood and talk with residents about their complaints, positive things etc. I can tell you people WILL complain about any issues. Ask how bad HOA is or is not. Check reaction when you tell them you are not LDS. Younger people are more open than older ones, and Sun River has church that is not LDS. Even wine tasting parties...Something you would NEVER see in my neighborhood. The senior center in St. George offers pottery - computer class, dancing etc. you might want to check that out. St. George Utah Senior Citizen Center
Much Luck!
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Old 07-03-2014, 01:39 PM
 
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Koliver - can i ask where you are in st george?

We are also looking at a non-retirement community in ivins near snow canyon and kayenta. It does seem that we can manage to meet activity needs without some if the restrictions. Just more driving. We love ivins area. I know that there is a unitarian church that meets at kayenta.

Please excuse my spelling and caps issues. I am using a tablet.

Any thoughts on ivins or kayenta?

I know i can do pottery at the college. There is a large pickleball center in st george. There appears to be bridge offered at a few places and it does not indicate that sun river bridge is restricted to residents.

Again - any info is appreciated. I do get the feeling that many activities are for lds members - so i would expect to be excluded from those activities.

it is a quandry and a big decision.

Thanks again for input.

Cheers
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Old 07-03-2014, 07:25 PM
 
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I am a part-time resident in Kayenta, and if you can afford it, I would recommend it as meeting your requirements. House price is typically higher than most of St. George. Most residents are from somewhere else - East Coast, Pacific Northwest, California, so are open to new people. Lots of activities including pickleball, bridge, hiking group, book group, volunteering at art festivals or trash pickup or the animal shelter, and Friends of Snow Canyon. Pottery studio at the art village.

The HOA dues is minimal, mainly covering road maintenance. Pool/tennis court membership is separate. Architectural restrictions aim to preserve the dark sky and provide for unobtrusive home designs with desert landscaping. Not an age restricted community.

You will find the LDS "Latte Day Saints" enjoying coffee drinks every morning at Xetava restaurant and shared dinners at residents' homes usually include bringing a bottle of wine if you are a guest.

You can also enjoy all that St. George offers, including hiking, cultural events, and the Institute for Continued Learning at the University. Highly recommended if this is what your seek and have the budget.
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Old 07-03-2014, 08:01 PM
 
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Carlosatun - thanks for that info. I love the way kayenta looks and i appreciate the architectural restrictions. I did not realize they have activities like bridge, tennis and pickleball.

I used to come out to NIF for hiking in the 80s and sure wish i had purchased something then. Nif was bought by Franklin Covey and they sold to the Red Mountain owners. I miss the old nif. We used to bike over to kayenta.

is it easy to meet people at kayenta? I know it is a very established community.

thanks again for the input.

cheers
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