Single men: DO NOT move to St Louis (St. Louis: houses, elementary school) - Missouri (MO) - City-Data Forum

wolfman85 · 09-08-2012, 11:20 PM

I am a 27-year-old man who has lived in the St Louis area for two years now and am making plans to leave this city ASAP. Despite the fact that I have a very stable job here, I am leaving because I cannot find a woman here no matter how hard I try.

Since moving here I have not managed to find even a single friend, let alone a woman. People in the St Louis area are not interested in meeting new people and if you didn't grow up here, you will always be an outsider and will never be accepted. If you don't have the St Louis accent, then people say "you have an accent" and then when you reply that they have an accent too, they respond "I don't have an accent" as if the St Louis way of speaking were the "real" way of speaking English and everyone else speaks a second-class English. (Take it from an outsider, people in St Louis have a very distinctive accent, there is nothing "standard" about the St Louis accent).

Women in St Louis are very violent; do not EVER disagree with them on ANYTHING or they will immediately start using profanity towards you, get in your face, and threaten to beat you up.

This lack of love, companionship, and sex is completely unhealthy for a human and I believe I am already beginning to suffer from the physiological effects. Therefore, for my health I am moving away from this city. I encourage all single men considering a move to St Louis to strongly reconsider. If you arrive here single, you will leave here single.

flynavyj · 09-09-2012, 06:34 AM

Have numerous friends from other areas, and yes, it's true when you move to ANYWHERE that has an accent and your accent doesn't match, that people will respond "you have an accent, where are you from?" pretty normal, lol. A good friend of mine moved to the States from Poland as a teenager and settled in New Jersey. So now he speaks New Jersey English with a Polish accent, think that sounds unique? Even he ended up finding a great girl and getting married right here in St. Louis.

I'd love to see what you're disagreeing about with women that's causing them to get violent and beat you up. Maybe highly controversial subjects shouldn't be brought up on a first date? If it's where you want to go eat dinner, then you've simply encounters the wrong type of women. Good luck in your next move to wherever it is, hopefully the women there are more accepting of YOU.

Mos4Good · 09-09-2012, 07:22 AM

Do what you have to do and don't judge by the women and the people you encountered in St. Louis. It's going to be like that in any city you move dude. You might need to look a little harder to find the right woman for you.

BoomBoxing · 09-09-2012, 08:26 AM

Hilarious post, OP! Especially the part where you assign very specific and uncommon personality traits (e.g. extreme violence) to millions of women when you've probably dated 0.0000001% of them. Awesome!

Dawn10am · 09-09-2012, 08:57 AM

The only part of this post that's even remotely accurate is the accent thing. That kinda drives me crazy too.

CSD610 · 09-09-2012, 09:01 AM

Wow, I'm an outsider to St. Louis and the surrounding area when I lived there and I had lots of friends within a short period of time. Not that I dated the women but the guys I dated were overall great guys. I've heard about some of the women in that area but some of the men in that area and all other areas around the country have the same type of men and women. From what I understand if you stay out of the bars and strip clubs and don't try to make a prostitute or a stripper your steady girlfriend you should be just fine.

wolfman85 · 09-09-2012, 09:10 AM

So far no one has come up with a decent reply. It's all the same old tired nonsense of "other people could do it" and "it's the same everywhere else". No it's not the same everywhere else.

When I lived in West Texas, I had a date within a month after arriving. People there were very inviting towards me; they all wanted me to come to their houses and/or go out to eat.

Here in St Louis though, even when I invite people either to go out or to come to my place (not just women, but men too) they all universally turn me down, since they seem to always have plans no matter what day of the week it is or what time it is. They always seem to make time for their elementary school friends, but they can't even be bothered to spend even 20 minutes with me.

And before you all say "it's my approach", I will remind you all once again that in West Texas, I did not have this problem. It is simply that in St Louis, if you did not grow up here, you will never be accepted. All you St Louis posters will disagree with me, but I as an outsider who has lived the life of a "transplant" (that derogatory term you use to describe us as if we're lesser human beings because we come from somewhere else) can tell you the way it is.

Also, the whole thing about "trying harder to find the right person". I put in far more effort than any of you could ever imagine. I was going out nightly meeting several women a night and estimate that in my two years here, I asked out over 300 women and not a single one said yes. So please don't insist that it was due to lack of trying.

As for the violent women thing, it wasn't them being violent to me on a first date, because like I said, I never had a date here. It was them being violent in normal everyday life. The most extreme example: I was driving on I-270 towards the West County Mall, and I guess I accidentally cut off a woman changing lanes. I accept the blame, it was my fault. However, this sorry excuse for a woman FOLLOWED ME all the way to my exit, followed me to my parking spot, and upon parking I was surprised by her screaming in my face, telling me "I have an 8-year-old daughter you almost killed". Remember that I cut her off about 3 miles before my exit, so she followed me all that distance just to scream at me and get in my face.

I have many other examples that are nowhere near as extreme, but still uncalled for. My female coworkers have no respect at all for men and everytime we have a disagreement about a work related issue, their most common reply is to tell me to "shut the f*ck up".

My post was intended for a specific audience, namely for single men thinking of moving here. There are millions of other places more friendly to single men, namely West Texas. My post was NOT intended for St Louis people, since naturally they are going to disagree.

CSD610 · 09-09-2012, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by wolfman85

So far no one has come up with a decent reply. It's all the same old tired nonsense of "other people could do it" and "it's the same everywhere else". No it's not the same everywhere else.

When I lived in West Texas, I had a date within a month after arriving. People there were very inviting towards me; they all wanted me to come to their houses and/or go out to eat.

Here in St Louis though, even when I invite people either to go out or to come to my place (not just women, but men too) they all universally turn me down, since they seem to always have plans no matter what day of the week it is or what time it is. They always seem to make time for their elementary school friends, but they can't even be bothered to spend even 20 minutes with me.

And before you all say "it's my approach", I will remind you all once again that in West Texas, I did not have this problem. It is simply that in St Louis, if you did not grow up here, you will never be accepted. All you St Louis posters will disagree with me, but I as an outsider who has lived the life of a "transplant" (that derogatory term you use to describe us as if we're lesser human beings because we come from somewhere else) can tell you the way it is.

Also, the whole thing about "trying harder to find the right person". I put in far more effort than any of you could ever imagine. I was going out nightly meeting several women a night and estimate that in my two years here, I asked out over 300 women and not a single one said yes. So please don't insist that it was due to lack of trying.

As for the violent women thing, it wasn't them being violent to me on a first date, because like I said, I never had a date here. It was them being violent in normal everyday life. The most extreme example: I was driving on I-270 towards the West County Mall, and I guess I accidentally cut off a woman changing lanes. I accept the blame, it was my fault. However, this sorry excuse for a woman FOLLOWED ME all the way to my exit, followed me to my parking spot, and upon parking I was surprised by her screaming in my face, telling me "I have an 8-year-old daughter you almost killed". Remember that I cut her off about 3 miles before my exit, so she followed me all that distance just to scream at me and get in my face.

I have many other examples that are nowhere near as extreme, but still uncalled for. My female coworkers have no respect at all for men and everytime we have a disagreement about a work related issue, their most common reply is to tell me to "shut the f*ck up".

My post was intended for a specific audience, namely for single men thinking of moving here. There are millions of other places more friendly to single men, namely West Texas. My post was NOT intended for St Louis people, since naturally they are going to disagree.

Pardon my reply to your post on this public forum, I was unaware it was for people from the St Louis area only. Just for the record I am NOT from St Louis but I did live in that area for about 7 years and had no trouble there or in Illinois right across the river with friends and dating. You should probably move back to West Texas soon if it is a better fit for you and your personality. Good luck with the move.

wolfman85 · 09-09-2012, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by CSD610

Pardon my reply to your post on this public forum, I was unaware it was for people from the St Louis area only. Just for the record I am NOT from St Louis but I did live in that area for about 7 years and had no trouble there or in Illinois right across the river with friends and dating. You should probably move back to West Texas soon if it is a better fit for you and your personality. Good luck with the move.

You have it backwards. My post was intended for people NOT from the St Louis area. It was NOT intended for people from the St Louis area. If you had no problem meeting people, then please tell me what you did because I'm at my wit's end trying to figure out how to make friends/find a woman here.

BoomBoxing · 09-09-2012, 09:32 AM

So what do you think any of that proves? How do you make the leap that your experiences are applicable to a large group of people when you have dealt with relatively few of them? Frankly, I get tired of all the generalizations and stereotyping people do on city-data. I'm sure you can find plenty of negative posts about the people in west Texas and every other place on here. While I accept certain personality traits are more prevelant in certain places, the gross generalizations and super-specific traits cited by the OP reek of someone with little understanding or experience dealing with people of different backgrounds and personalities. Also, a (un)healthy dose of externalizing personal failures. Of course your dating problems aren't the result of any of your personal defects, OP! It's everyone else and your particular geographic location that are the problem!