Racism in St. Louis (St. Charles, Rea: high crime, area codes, club)

[Chicagoland60426]

St. Louis is one of the least diverse city in this country. Since you are Asian- American, you better off living in the Chicago area where there are some suburbs that are over 20% Asian.

[ShadowCaver]

bluchidog - just curious, not provoking, but wonder if that statement regarding StL being "one of the least diverse in this country" a fact or an opinion? There are many cities in this land, and I do wonder where StL would rank in such a standing...

[ajf131]

Originally Posted by BigKab

Missouri was declared an enemy state to the Union, sing dixie.

Voting record, yes. Ethnic tolerance, no.

That's the #1 reason to why I hear negative comments about those of asian ancestry. I used to get into some ugly stare-matches with most of the asian males in my wifes former neighborhood, Viet bangers I believe.


I was born/raised here and have witnessed it all. Nothing the original poster is shocking, sooner or later someone is going to let you have it one way or another. You can handle it 3 ways (deal with it, fire back or run away). Pretty sure the kids did it out of boredom more than hate. Only thing that changed from old days is we are allowed to vote and use the same door/drinking fountain etc.

Am I racist? HELL YES, I hate rats/squirrels, roaches,flies and all kinds of pest. For some reason people have RACE twisted into what it's not. I am prejudice, cut me off in traffic and I'll utter my slurs no matter your skin tone.Other than that it's case by case. Welcome to USA.

Never be shocked to see "*insert ethnic slur here* go home" spray painted on your house or being the unwilling host of a burning cross in highly segregated areas. Of course it doesn't everyday to my knowledge, twice in lifetime is 2x too many.[color=Red]

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Missouri was never declared an enemy state to the Union, and it never legitimately seceded. Also, three times as many Missourians fought for the Union as for the Confederacy.

[ShadowCaver]

Note - to keep this thread open, remember to adhere to the ToS; no name calling, keep an open mind w/ understanding and empathy towards all - this thread has potential to be positive and proactive, however opinions must be kept in check. If desire to broaden the discussion outside of the StL area bounds, take it to the Political and Other Controversies forum. Thanks.

[Miami305Kid]

I don't know how/why you put up with this. If someone did this to me I would move immediatley. Why should you have to deal with people being racist? Trust me the east coast or west coast is much more diverse and accepting then where your living now.

[STLCardsBlues1989]

There will be racism anywhere. Sorry to burst your bubble, but any place will have some kind of bigotry. Those that supposedly don't I personally couldn't afford to live in anyway.

[ajf131]

Originally Posted by STLCardsBlues1989

There will be racism anywhere. Sorry to burst your bubble, but any place will have some kind of bigotry. Those that supposedly don't I personally couldn't afford to live in anyway.

Btw, apologize about the remarks about the Bible. Did not mean to insult anyone.

[ajf131]

Originally Posted by bluchidog

St. Louis is one of the least diverse city in this country. Since you are Asian- American, you better off living in the Chicago area where there are some suburbs that are over 20% Asian.

You're crazy lmao. Clayton and Ladue and Chesterfield have lots of Asian Americans. St. Louis also has a pretty high population of Indians, Bosnians, Italians, and Hispanics. It's definitely a diverse city, maybe not as much as its bigger brother Chicago, but definitely diverse nonetheless.

[desperad0stl]

Now I can tell you that St. Louis generally isn't a racist city...Its a larger american city where the vast vast vast majority of the population has a very small town mentality and that small town mentality comes with ignorance...

I have lived in St. Louis most of my life and have a unique story of having lived in every different type of neighborhood...

I am half african american and half mexican (and have a jewish stepmother and half brothers, Im screwed! lol)...I was born into the south side of st. louis and moved to north county (hazelwood) when i was young and lived there until i was about 14...I then moved to west county (creve coeur) and attended Chaminade and then moved to Ladue and graduated from Ladue High and spent a ton of time hanging out with my many friends in Clayton and U. City...
Every township in St. Louis is pretty much treated as its own city and people really dont know much about the areas outside of their immediate areas and their immediate neighboring townships.

About 95% of my friends from north county are on the path to living in that area for their entire lives and don't know much about the rest of their city. My friends in Ladue refuse to go clubbing and eating in the city because they still think the entire city is a ghetto. My own family members in the north and south side refuse to come to the west end and west county where I live and have a business because the majority of the people in these areas are white and just stay in their own areas.
People generally segregate themselves and I honestly do it as well where I refuse to go to South County because the majority of the population there is white working class and I can honestly say I am more scared to end up in South county than any of the roughest ghettos of the city.

It is a very strange place with so many boundaries that 95% of the population refuse to cross.
There were a ton of asians that went to school with me in Ladue and there are a ton of chinese in olivette and tons of vietnamese in south st louis.

I personally have been harassed by the police in the area that I live but when I speak to them and they notice that I am educated they are threwn off and always mark my ethnicity as white if they pull me over and have issued me a ticket haha.

I have spent lots of time in Chicago and love how you can go to most neighborhoods and every culture is mixing black, white, asians, gay, straight and no one bats an eye...
If you go to a black club in St. Louis and you are not black you will get many glares and curious looks...same goes for me in Suburban bars.
People are still threwn off in St. Louis when mixing is going on, but generally you will not be harassed.

Many of my Chicago friends came down and asked to go to a hip hop club...but when you are talking about St. Louis hip hop club goes hand and hand with "Ghetto and all black"...it threw my Chicago friends off big time.


My summary is culturally St. Louis does kind of suck. It saddens me that the definition of a latin night in St. Louis is drunken northern mexicans with hoorible tejano music...no salsa, no merengue, no bachata...just reggaeton and cholos (Hell I lived in Beijing for a year and they had 3 gigantic salsa clubs that had awesome latin nights...heh)
There are not a lot of latinos they are 2% of the population.
Most things in St. Louis can be classified as either black or white...if you are looking for a date in St. Louis and you are not black or white good luck. (Outside of the little culture bubbles like South Grand and the CWE)...
Most of St. Louis is very very mainstream...dont look forward to hearing anything but rock and hip hop at the very mainstream clubs...you can sum up almost all St. Louis clubs by one statement...Top 40! (Because of this all clubs end up canabilizing eachother because they are all the same and they tend to fail)
Be prepared to have most "ethnic" restaurants be heavily americanized and catered to the american palette....There is only one street i can truly turn to for authentic mexican and that is Cherokee and for asian there is south grand and olive.

If you are looking for a culturally diverse city, do not come to St. Louis.
You will be tolerated but you will be misunderstood
Well there's my two cents.

[desperad0stl]

there were more times though that I had bad experiences with the police...
I did break my own back yard basement window (from the inside lol) when i was a teenager with a football by accident and had a cop come pull his gun on me when i was inside my house (Ladue)

I also had a time where it was about -10 windchill i got a flat and pulled into an apartment complex to fix the flat and pulled into an empty carport to change my tire and break the wind...someone thought i was stealing my own car and a few units pulled up and had a gun pulled on me again...

I should say...i kind of blamed the police...but the people mostly to blame were the people who called them on me...
I can honestly say if i was a white kid in these situations, the cops probably wouldnt have been pulling out their guns.

I do love the clayton PD and people in clayton in general...sure they busted all of my high school parties at friends houses and learned to call me by name ha but they were always respectful and clayton people arent shocked when a black/latino kid is walking through their neighborhood...often i have random people come talk to me instead of look at me like satan reborn in my own neighborhood.

Can the baby boomers from old money please go away? lol