Tragedy in Kirkwood (Franklin: condo, lawsuit, moving)

[aragx6]

I think the point is that no matter what happened to him that he considered a grave injustice, he had no right to commit murder, to destroy lives. That is one thing that I think all of us can agree on no matter the differences between us.

[r8rfan]

Originally Posted by Danilo-11

I have to agree with you.
I'm not going to point fingers here, but it shows that some people in this forum are racist, prejudice, etc.

Notice the question that I asked before:
"Anybody knows what actually happened with this guy before that made him do what he did?"

Because I/we don't know the exact reason why he went and did this.
But then some people's prejudice/racism comes out and start saying all kind of stupid comments without even knowing what happened before this incident.

Was it because of racism? Maybe
Was it because of discrimination? Maybe
Was it a revenge from something really bad that was done to him? Maybe

Do we know that? ... NO

Who does it show is racist? the only one that mentioned racism was dahole. Everyone else is basically saying that no matter what the circumstances the guy had no right to do what he did.
I sure hope you're not calling me racist. And I damn sure hope you're not implying that this guy had a right to do what he did.
The articles that I've read stated that he was doing things illegally, he was told that he couldn't come to the meetings and start shooting off his mouth and making threats. What the guy did was WRONG no matter how you slice it.
Like I posted earlier, NOTHING gives a person the right to do what this guy did to innocent people. He should've learned to conform to society and the laws of his town. He fought the law and being the idiot that he obviously was thought that somehow HE was a victim. You seem to imply in your post that maybe he was justified in what he did.
WRONG

[Danilo-11]

Originally Posted by r8rfan

You seem to imply in your post that maybe he was justified in what he did.
WRONG

Well, the answer is:
No, nobody will ever have a good reason to kill somebody

That's why I went ahead and asked what happened before this incident that got him to do something like this
Did something happened that pissed him off?
Was his wife cheating with one of those people?
Or was he just a crazy person that happened to go in that building with guns and started shooting everybody?

What bothers me is that some people start saying things that had to do with racism even though they didn't have any reason to say that.

[r8rfan]

Originally Posted by Danilo-11

Well, the answer is:
No, nobody will ever have a good reason to kill somebody

That's why I went ahead and asked what happened before this incident that got him to do something like this
Did something happened that pissed him off?
Was his wife cheating with one of those people?
Or was he just a crazy person that happened to go in that building with guns and started shooting everybody?

What bothers me is that some people start saying things that had to do with racism even though they didn't have any reason to say that.

Like I said only one person(dahole) made racial accusations.
You might want to read some of the articles about this. The guy had some issues with the town due to permits and what not. He wouldn't go along with the laws of the town and he turns it around and tries to act like he's the victim.. Tragically this is how most of these shootings transpire. The guilty idiot thinks he's the victim because he can't obide by the rules. The guy obviously had more than one screw loose or he wouldn't have done this. I don't care if he was black, white, orange, yellow, purple, green, or any number of colors. The guy killed 5 innocent people and there is absolutely no excuse under the sun for doing so.
Yes he was pissed, but so what? I get pissed at times, but I've never thought the answer was to go to a meeting and start shooting whoever was unlucky enough to be in the way of my bullets. Have you?
Be reasonable....the guy did wrong. Hands down.

[SashaBlue]

Originally Posted by tallrick

You can only push someone so far before they snap. Local governments that mistreat their citizens better beware, this can and will happen again.

I am not from the area, so what did local governments do to mistreat?

[jojojohnson76]

^^ They didn't give a person with mental issues everything he wanted as he kept violating the laws.

tallrick apparently thinks that local governments job is to give every citizen anything and everything they want no more the consequence or law.

[STLCardsBlues1989]

It doesn't matter what his race was, how old he was, or even what his reason was. He had no right to do what he did. The council members and the mayor did what they thought was best in regards to his case. The cops and the reporters there were not at fault at all.

Obviously, the guy had a screw loose and he went on a rampage. In my opinion, it has nothing to do with race at all. They turned down a nut and he snapped.

[Danilo-11]

Originally Posted by r8rfan

Yes he was pissed, but so what? I get pissed at times, but I've never thought the answer was to go to a meeting and start shooting whoever was unlucky enough to be in the way of my bullets. Have you?
Be reasonable....the guy did wrong. Hands down.

You need to calm down,
you seem to think that I'm saying that maybe he had a good reason to do what he did.

I'm just trying to find out what happened before the incident.

[floridasandy]

Originally Posted by dawhole9

St. Louis residents wake up Racism is still very present in this City, State and Country and people better wake up! African Americans are tired of being treated as second class citizens. It is sad that it had to come to this but blacks are tired of being treated as slaves.

Blacks are tired of whites philosophy "if you are not white you ain't right mentality." Kirkwood is a very prejudice place as is Chesterfield, Town & Country, Ladue and all of South County. Most whites in these area mask or try to hide their prejudice but it exists.

I feel sorry for all the families but this is not the end you will see more of these shootings happening until blacks are treated as equals.

who let al sharpton post in this forum?
ps my sympathy to the families of the victims!

[Danilo-11]

FYI, this is the kind of information that I was looking for

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...1,865079.story
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