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Old 01-21-2018, 04:58 PM
 
Location: St. Louis
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Originally Posted by Milton Keynes View Post
St. Louis had no chance against those cities. St. Louis will not appeal to millennials and young professionals because it is not a progressive city. It relies too much on its past and sits by the wayside while the quality of life in the area continues to deteriorate.

I was there for a class in 2015 - a lot of potential, but it has a long way to go and the locals/natives need to be more motivated and welcoming to outside improvement ideas.
Newark has nothing on St. Louis other than proximity to NYC where Bezos maintains one of his residences.
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Old 01-21-2018, 05:01 PM
 
Location: St. Louis
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St. Louis had no chance against those cities. St. Louis will not appeal to millennials and young professionals because it is not a progressive city. It relies too much on its past and sits by the wayside while the quality of life in the area continues to deteriorate.

I was there for a class in 2015 - a lot of potential, but it has a long way to go and the locals/natives need to be more motivated and welcoming to outside improvement ideas.
A somewhat cynical look at Amazon's process and where it may go from here:

The disturbing part about Amazon's HQ2 competition (Opinion) - CNN
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Old 01-21-2018, 05:13 PM
 
Location: St. Louis, MO
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A somewhat cynical look at Amazon's process and where it may go from here:

The disturbing part about Amazon's HQ2 competition (Opinion) - CNN
Interesting. Thank you for sharing!
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Old 01-21-2018, 09:37 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Milton Keynes View Post
St. Louis had no chance against those cities. St. Louis will not appeal to millennials and young professionals because it is not a progressive city. It relies too much on its past and sits by the wayside while the quality of life in the area continues to deteriorate.

I was there for a class in 2015 - a lot of potential, but it has a long way to go and the locals/natives need to be more motivated and welcoming to outside improvement ideas.
Milton Keynes! kudos on the name, your best yet, I was losing faith in your creativity but picking an mostly obscure English new town is a stroke of enigmatic genius.

Also points on staying on point with your message, keep posting you crazy diamond, you will get to us one day!
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Old 01-21-2018, 10:00 PM
 
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It was pretty nice plan actually. the river spanning campus has a very nice feel.

I didn't think we had a real shot, but the proposal stacks up to or exceeds other proposals I have seen.

https://cbsstlouis.files.wordpress.c...ponse-open.pdf

This whole beauty contest has a very disingenuous feel to it. There are too many disparities between the 20 city list to reinforce any of the original criteria. Either there is secret criteria... or no real criteria and they have known the winner since day one.
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Old 01-23-2018, 12:00 PM
 
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St. Louis brought this on themselves. St. Louis is too backwards and unwelcoming for something of this magnitude. Amazon is much to progressive for St. Louis. When STL decides it wants to let go of it's racism/classism/nostalgia/ionlygotothecityforbaseball then we'd have a fighting chance. Also, stop moving out west every time there's a problem in your area...it just makes it worse.
Funnily enough, I know a lot of north New Jersians, and most of them can't name the last time they visited NYC. Suburbanites not caring about the urban core isn't unique to St. Louis.

Also, LOL at "stop moving west when there's a problem" when we're literally talking about a company HQ'd on the west coast. Half the country picked up and moved west rather than deal with the legacy problems of the east and midwest, that's not a St. Louis thing either.
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Old 01-24-2018, 03:44 PM
 
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I honestly think picking Indy, Columbus and Nashville over St. Louis is pretty comical. Those cities are much smaller than St. Louis and would go through some HUGE growing pains should one of those be selected. I thought transit was important in this proposal. Those cities don't have any, other than buses, as far as I can see. We have a larger CBD that could offer and absorb far more space than those cities. I think it'll likely be a much larger city or one near DC.
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Old 01-25-2018, 12:29 PM
 
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I honestly think picking Indy, Columbus and Nashville over St. Louis is pretty comical. Those cities are much smaller than St. Louis and would go through some HUGE growing pains should one of those be selected. I thought transit was important in this proposal. Those cities don't have any, other than buses, as far as I can see. We have a larger CBD that could offer and absorb far more space than those cities. I think it'll likely be a much larger city or one near DC.

Maybe not Indy but both Columnus and Nashville (esp. Nashville) are on the up and up right now. There's a lot of comparison's being made between Nashville and Austin especially.
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Old 01-25-2018, 12:31 PM
 
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I understand that they're on the "hot cities list", but those cities are still much smaller and I think there will be far more growing pains.
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Old 01-25-2018, 12:36 PM
 
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You mean to tell me that our wonderful governor’s proposal to entice Amazon with a hyperloop technology that does not yet exist failed?
In the first pages of this thread I wrote: no way STL is getting it, given how difficult it is to attract talent and young qualified workers to the city. Many employers in the MSA are having a really hard time finding qualified candidates to fill their positions. Other posters dismissed my concerns.

Detroit community and business leaders explicitly asked Amazon why they didn't make the top20. Amazon's response: they were unsure that the Detroit MSA would be able to attract and retain the talent that a venture of this size would require. And given recent urban dynamics, Detroit seems to be more capable of attracting young professionals than St. Louis, so...

Young professionals from other parts of the country are more eager to move to Nashville or Pittsburgh than to St Louis or Kansas City. That's the truth, and recent demographic and economic trends show that.
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