City vs. County (St. Louis, St. Charles, Chesterfield: school districts, deed, living in)

[STLCardsBlues1989]

We have no problem with Chesterfield, WestCoDude, but it is frustrating when you talk about how the city "sucks". If you had said, "The city is not for me", that's fine, but saying "The city sucks" is not. You don't live in the city so please don't bash it.

And I think it's ridiculous to think that most city residents would move to West County if given the chance. It's possible, that West County is not for some people, just like the city is not for you.

West County is fine, but so is the city and any other area of St. Louis. If you don't like the city, fine. But don't say the city "sucks" or anything along those lines, please. Without the city there would be no suburbs.

Please, just don't bash the city. That's the issue here, not you living in Chesterfield. Some people like living in the city. Some like having public transportation nearby, they like walking to little restaurants, and they like living close to everything they like to do. Some prefer the suburbs. Some don't mind driving into the city, and they like the relative quiet of the suburbs, and they don't mind being away from the city.

Just a matter of preference. Saying things like "nice part of town" in reference to Chesterfield or "sucks" in reference to the city is not nice. People do not appreciate you bashing the city when you've never lived there. You can say it's not for you, that's fine, just don't bash it, please.

Thanks.

[northbayeric]

Folks, can't we just knock it off with this circular firing squad and get along a little better here? I think that's what most, if not all of us are aiming for in the more recent posts. "Just a matter of preference," 1989 says, and that encapsulates this whole discussion. The variety of things in the whole St. Louis metro area makes it the special place that it is. I think there's still a portion of St. Louis that needs quite a bit of work, and think Chesterfield is a bit too upscale a place for me as a place to live. But each place has their good points--and they're very good. Hey, we're not talking about Berkeley, California, are we now?

As someone who was born and raised in Florissant, I'm part of the vast majority of those who left the St. Louis area and now looks forward to every opportunity to come back to visit and have fun--from downtown all the way out to the Shaw Nature Reserve in Gray Summit. There's something for just about everyone except for committed beach aficionados. One last thought--I think Jo Jo would make a great city of St. Louis tourism worker.

[jojojohnson76]

Again, Chesterfield was referred to as a "neighborhood" of St. Louis. Wow.

I put right in several posts on c-d, that where you live is a matter of preference. Folks like west county? Then stay there! By all means, enjoy it. Bloom where you are planted. But folks, please stop saying disparaging things about the city that you know NOTHING about.

And people's notion that city residents would move to the county as soon as they got a chance is not ridiculous...it's hilarious.. Anyone that can afford something in the city could afford something in west county, north county, south county, or the metro east.. They could move if they wanted, they choose not to. Take a drive down Waterman Blvd off Skinker and then ask yourself "Why aren't these people in West County?"

I live in an apartment. I could get an apartment anywhere in West County for what I pay in the metro-east. I wouldn't and won't live there, ever in my life.

Many people know nothing about this city, the city's residents, or real estate, or ANYTHING ELSE related to St. Louis.


IT WOULD BE NICE TO SEE PEOPLE STOP CALLING CHESTERFIELD "PART OF ST. LOUIS." IT IS A SUBURB THAT MOST PEOPLE FIND A BORING PATCH OF CHAIN RESTAURANTS. I REPEAT, CHESTERFIELD IS NOT A CITY NEIGHBORHOOD.

[kpoeppel]

Parts of the city's south side are ok, but a large part of the city (especially the north side) are quite dangerous. I don't think it's unfair to say that most of the county is a much better place to live than the city. It's sad...but true I'm afraid.

[STLCardsBlues1989]

"Better" is a subjective term, though.

The county typically has lower crime, but also typically less culture and 90% white population. The city tends to have more culture and can be more dangerous.

So, neither is better. The suburbs are generally safe, mostly white, and typically boring. The city is usually less safe, more diverse, and more exciting.

[aragx6]

Don't you love when someone posts essentially the exact same message on multiple threads????

[goat314]

Originally Posted by STLCardsBlues1989

"Better" is a subjective term, though.

The county typically has lower crime, but also typically less culture and 90% white population. The city tends to have more culture and can be more dangerous.

So, neither is better. The suburbs are generally safe, mostly white, and typically boring. The city is usually less safe, more diverse, and more exciting.

St. Louis County is about 70% white 25% Black 5% Asian and Hispanic.

[jojojohnson76]

Think of it like this; the city breaks off all of its neighborhoods in to actual towns. Central West End because Centralwestendville, Soulard become Soulard City, Benton Park becomes Benton Park, MO, and Baden in to Baden Township, MO. Now, you have a pretty safe city, a pretty safe city, a pretty safe city, and a dangerous city. That's how it works. Period.

There are bad parts of St. Louis County, but because all of the "bad" neighborhoods in St. Louis are wrapped up in to "the city," the entire city gets a bad image. Florissant is starting to make a name for itself as far as being "ghetto" as everyone describes it (I don't know Florissant well enough to make that judgement call), but people aren't going to start saying "DON'T MOVE TO ST. LOUIS COUNTY!" because Florissant has turned bad, just like anyone with half of a brain isn't going to say "DON'T MOVE TO ST. CLAIR COUNTY (in Illinois)" because of East St. Louis.

You would think people would be smarter than that, but obviously, they are not.

[jojojohnson76]

Originally Posted by kpoeppel

Parts of the city's south side are ok, but a large part of the city (especially the north side) are quite dangerous. I don't think it's unfair to say that most of the county is a much better place to live than the city. It's sad...but true I'm afraid.

School us some more on your vast knowledge of the city. I'd be interested to see you stumble over your own words and making up neighborhood names.

[chitownwarrior]

This thread is the problem of St. louis....

Look at you people!!! You're fighting one another when you should be working together. Everyone from chesterfield says when they meet people...I'm from st. louis....and take advantage of all the city has --- cardinals, rams, blues, neighborhoods, etc. They use the city and then go back to their hoards. Without the city though, you wouldn't have those things.

And vice versa, the city people are extremlely sensitive and feel the need to defend it to the last drop.

Your problem is that YOU NEED TO UNITE...DUUUUUH. That's the thing holding you back. I can't understand why st. louis remains so parochial and separated. How can you stand it? It's so 1950.