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Old 07-03-2019, 11:21 AM
 
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Hello! I made a post about finding a place to move in the main forum, and several people recommended St. Louis, so i figured i'd make a post here!

I am a black single mother in her early 30s looking to start over after a terrible relationship. I work remotely so I can pick up and move most anywhere, but would ideally love to find a working class/middle class neighborhood, that is either majority black, or mixed but open minded and welcoming.

My top priorities are safety (somewhere i don't have to worry about letting my son play outside), and affordability (i am approved for a 200k, but would ideally like to spend a bit less than that). Schools are important, but i am very open to a charter school or private school if needed. And i'd love to be pretty conveniently located to downtown or other cool areas.

I know i'm asking a lot haha, can neighborhoods like this be found in St.Louis? Where would you recommend??

Thanks so much!
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Old 07-03-2019, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Saint Louis, MO
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Florissant is the first place that comes to mind. Below average crime, middle class with affordable housing, sizable AA population. Not terribly close to downtown but easy highway access. Nearly everyone I know that's AA and cares about a sizable black population lives there.
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Old 07-04-2019, 06:40 AM
 
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Florissant is the first place that comes to mind. Below average crime, middle class with affordable housing, sizable AA population. Not terribly close to downtown but easy highway access. Nearly everyone I know that's AA and cares about a sizable black population lives there.
There are some nice middle class areas north and east of Florissant that are nice like Black Jack and the area around Barrington Downs (I believe it's referred to as New Jamestown) that is nice as well.
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Old 07-05-2019, 08:33 AM
 
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Thank you all!!

Does Florissant have a small 'downtown' of its own? Are there any more in-town neighborhoods that might fit the bill?
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Old 07-07-2019, 01:18 PM
 
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I also work remotely; last year I lived in Ferguson (next to Florissant).

I found that most of what I wanted to do happened close to or just south of Delmar. This included live music, walking, museums, exhibits, lectures, interesting restaurants. Although Ferguson, Florissant, and other nearby communities offer many charms, they just felt so durned far from everything.

To achieve the maximum balance of demographics, access to diverse cultural amenities, and lovely stuff for your kiddo, I recommend looking at neighborhoods as close to Delmar and the 170 loop as possible. I'd also recommend taking a look at some neighborhoods in St. Louis City.

Some county communities to research:
~Normandy
~University City (which I'd recommend as the starting point of your research)
~Richmond Heights
~Maplewood


Finally, remember that even though the overall demographics of a municipality might suggest a smaller-than-desired percentage of African-American residents, there could be neighborhoods within the municipality that hit the sweet spot perfectly.

I hope this is a little helpful.

At the end of the day, though, I can't say I agree that St. Louis - or Missouri at all - is a spirit-lifting place for an African-American woman seeking to start over unless she's got supportive family or friends to keep her lifted. St. Louis, in particular, continues to be in a very painful place for many.
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Old 07-08-2019, 12:12 PM
 
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I don't think Florissant really has a nice "downtown" area. Nearby Ferguson has a decent downtown strip.
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Old 07-08-2019, 01:12 PM
 
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I would check out Pasadena Hills! Two houses are for sale for around $160,000 and the neighborhood could not be safer! 12-15 mins to Clayton and Downtown. Walk-able to some retail along Natural Bridge.

https://www.instagram.com/pasadenahills/
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Old 07-08-2019, 03:44 PM
 
Location: Saint Louis, MO
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For architecture, i'd recommend Pasadena Hills, it will win hands down. Same time, it's more subdivision than "neighborhood/city municipality" It does contain some of the most gorgeous historic homes in the Saint Louis area and is predominately black. There are still pockets within Richmond Heights that are predominately African American, but I think you'll be harder pressed to find an area that hasn't been gentrified. My father's late-girlfriend lived on a street in Richmond Heights that's on the national register as a historic street, as it was segregated housing for black doctors during the 1950's and 60's. Each home was custom built by black physicians, but as of now, I'm not sure how many of those homes are still owned by African Americans.

University City is where I'd recommend you start you search though. Believe you'll have an easier time locating predominately african american neighborhoods, in an area that's safe and very convenient to downtown, the loop, and quick highway access. The schools in the area are decent, but there are private school options as well. University City approaching Skinker, north of Delmar however i'm not a huge fan of. East of skinker and north of delmar is a hard "no" for me personally...the neighborhoods over there have gigantic, and gorgeous homes...all for incredibly cheap prices, because of racial segregation that left holes in the Saint Louis framework...it's sad, as many of those areas have experienced decay at a rate considerably faster than anything around it, and all because of political practices, real estate practices, and blatant racism.
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Old 07-08-2019, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Saint Louis, MO
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BTW - Bellereive Acres is another little enclave along Natural Bridge, with beautiful large homes on huge lots...once again, its' not nearly that sought after in Saint Louis because of it's location, but the stately and classic homes on that street are amazing to say the least. Here's one example that's currently for sale.

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/4.../2695517_zpid/
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Old 07-08-2019, 10:17 PM
 
Location: Saint Louis, MO
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I left University City off because on paper, it appears pretty diverse, but it is pretty segregated in my experience. The southern most part has more in common with Clayton, the middle part is more middle class, and the northern part is poorer. It's definitely more exciting than Florissant, though, has a downtown area, etc.
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