coming for a visit

[desperad0stl]

i didnt see the part about not clubbing much until after...
Hang around the central west end or the delmar loop during the day...there are many little shops and coffeehouses around these areas lots of university students studying and lots of different kinds of people.

[blueatari]

Blues game, weather will be fantastic then. Fall will be hitting it's peak. Best clubs are in the city, on the MO side. If you like country, head to Illinois and Country Wild, otherwise, stick to the Grand, Manchester, Vandeventer, Landing area...

Lots of fun!

[sjohnson2]

Originally Posted by ucfjtm

My opinion of what I would refuse to miss if I were taking someone through a tour of the city:
- Go up in the Gateway Arch to get the best view of the city.
- Experience the sea of red at a Cardinals game.
- The Art Museum & Zoo in Forest Park.
- Walking and dining Central West End and downtown Washington St.
- A group permitting, camping in Meramec state park with a float down the river.

Minus the camping trip, you can do all this via the Metrolink rail system.

i just wanted to comment that this was a useful post for me. I'm planning my first trip to China. Business / Pleasure. i'm quit interested in the history behind China. I do have quit a bit of time to enjoy the country, so i'm lucky that way. to date i've only decided on one place i'm staying for a few days forsue. Canton Fair Hotel. other than that i'm looking for more accommodation suggestions from anyone with experience travelling to China.
Thanks. Sam

[desperad0stl]

Originally Posted by sjohnson2

i just wanted to comment that this was a useful post for me. I'm planning my first trip to China. Business / Pleasure. i'm quit interested in the history behind China. I do have quit a bit of time to enjoy the country, so i'm lucky that way. to date i've only decided on one place i'm staying for a few days forsue. Canton Fair Hotel. other than that i'm looking for more accommodation suggestions from anyone with experience travelling to China.
Thanks. Sam

when are you going to china and what city are you going to?
If you're going to Beijing you will definitely want to stay around the central area anything around Xidan or Tian'anmen off of Chang'an blvd...try a few hotels around Chaoyang Gongyuan Xi Men (Chaoyang Park west gate) there are many interesting expat bars around that area and direct access to subway line one which takes you to Tian'anmen square, the forbidden city, xidan shopping district etc...
Fall is a beautiful season in Beijing and just plainly the best season to go...if you want to meet some cute chinese girls that aren't looking for a husband head down to Suzie Wong's at Chaoyang Park West Gate...for the avid night club junkie I would go to Vics or Mix which are both at Gongti Bei Men (Gonrentiyuchuang *Worker's stadium north gate) @ gongti bei lu (gongti north road)

There are thousands of good restaurants...for beijing duck I would recommend no other place over Li Qun duck restaurant...its a very old place in the old hutong district looks like a hole in the wall but its got great food...
If you're craving american the Kro's Nest has awesome american pizza...Lush is an american diner thats open 24/7 you will always find americans there. Pyro pizza which is right next door to Lush is also a college american crowd good place to meet westerners...

Make sure you write down your addresses in chinese characters! Chinese is a tonal language so if you say something wrong you could end up on the other side of the city. If cute young chinese girls in touristy areas are saying that they are students and want to go have a chat over some tea dont go with them they work for the tea houses and order the most expensive kind in house for themselves and you.
Hope this helps if you have a question just send me a message...I lived in Beijing for a year and have traveled all over China.