Racism in St. Charles area?

[aragx6]

Creve Couer doesn't go to Ladue schools -- they go to Parkway. I'd bet money that Olivette doesn't go to Ladue either but I'm not certain.

[Marie'sBees]

aragX6 - A friend of mine lives in Olivette and her kids are in the Ladue district. Whether it's all in that district, I'm not sure.

[aragx6]

^^ Good to know. in thinking about it, it actually makes sense because I can't seem to think of where else they'd go.

And I also suspect that a very small sliver of Creve Couer might go to Ladue... but my understanding is that the vast majority of CC goes to Parkway - either Central or maybe North.

[goat314]

I'm sorry to anyone from these places but I would have to say that St. Charles, Far West County, and most of South County are ridiculous racist and small minded places. People in these places act like St. Louis is the problem with the region, but its obviously there uber-conservative, borderline backwards, homogeneous communities and their "traditional" ways that will continue to stagnate the region. For example....the Metrolink ballot initiative will almost certainly be defeated, because the racists and shortsighted individuals in these areas do not see the benefit of working out for the common good. They whether got to the card games and race back to the outskirts on their beloved new I-64. Hopefully the younger generation will yearn for change, but I would count on anyone from the baby boomer era.

[aragx6]

Your post shows, in essence, how small-minded you yourself are.

My mother is none of those things. (She's actually kind of a crazy liberal, and knows others who live nearby and share similar beliefs) But she does live in St. Charles County. And she did and will again vote for metrolink. She moved to St. Charles, not to run away from the city, but because it was there, in 1984, where she and her husband could afford a home in a growing area with strong schools.

Hundreds of thousands of people live in St. Charles County alone, and the reasons to live there are many and varied.

Would I ever live there? HELL NO. Because diversity, walkability and architectural interest are just as important to me as cheap housing and good schools, but I am not so glib as to suggest that everyone's priorities fall directly in line with my own.

Indeed, I am glad they do not, or else I wouldn't be able to afford to live where I want to live!

[MoNative34]

Originally Posted by aragx6

Your post shows, in essence, how small-minded you yourself are.

My mother is none of those things. (She's actually kind of a crazy liberal, and knows others who live nearby and share similar beliefs) But she does live in St. Charles County. And she did and will again vote for metrolink. She moved to St. Charles, not to run away from the city, but because it was there, in 1984, where she and her husband could afford a home in a growing area with strong schools.

Hundreds of thousands of people live in St. Charles County alone, and the reasons to live there are many and varied.

Would I ever live there? HELL NO. Because diversity, walkability and architectural interest are just as important to me as cheap housing and good schools, but I am not so glib as to suggest that everyone's priorities fall directly in line with my own.

Indeed, I am glad they do not, or else I wouldn't be able to afford to live where I want to live!

Exactly and that's the same reason my parents moved west. Did I remain? No I didn't. I chose my own path and went rural. Others, aragx6 for example, chose urban. Some of the people I grew up with reside in the same neighborhoods raising their families. Personal choice is better than no choice at all.

[goat314]

Originally Posted by aragx6

Your post shows, in essence, how small-minded you yourself are.

My mother is none of those things. (She's actually kind of a crazy liberal, and knows others who live nearby and share similar beliefs) But she does live in St. Charles County. And she did and will again vote for metrolink. She moved to St. Charles, not to run away from the city, but because it was there, in 1984, where she and her husband could afford a home in a growing area with strong schools.

Hundreds of thousands of people live in St. Charles County alone, and the reasons to live there are many and varied.

Would I ever live there? HELL NO. Because diversity, walkability and architectural interest are just as important to me as cheap housing and good schools, but I am not so glib as to suggest that everyone's priorities fall directly in line with my own.

Indeed, I am glad they do not, or else I wouldn't be able to afford to live where I want to live!

Of course it is an ecological fallacy to assume everyone is a raging racist, but I'm not wrong to assume this. Most of my family is from the University City area and North St. Louis City and like many others that got a little bit of money my grandparents moved out to the Clarkson Valley area in the early 90s. These are older conservative looking black people, but they experienced racial discrimination like you wouldn't believe. Everything from racially charged graffiti on the side of their home, to people telling them that the bus didn't run "out here" when they shopped at local stores (which was an ignorant in itself, because my grandfather has always driven expensive SUVs). My point is that yes a large enough proportion of the people out in these sprawlvilles are people that make racially motivated moves and want to live in racially uniform communities with no respect for diversity. So dont try to pull the whole reverse-racism hat out the bag. I got experience to prove it.

[aragx6]

Wow, you're grandparents lived in 1 area of the 1000 square miles you mentioned and you think you know the beliefs and motivations of the vast majority of people who live there? It simply IS wrong to assume this.

What happened to your grandparents is completely unacceptable and unfair, and I know that the vast majority of people that I grew up with would feel exactly the same way!

[desperad0stl]

i went to Ladue HS when i first entered i lived in creve coeur...if you're in creve coeur past a certain point (I think parkway starts about half a mile east of 270)...
everyone I knew in olivette as far as highway 170 was in ladue.
Most people that are actually in Ladue send their kids to private schools...the school district is pretty wide.