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02-04-2009, 01:48 PM
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STL for Blues and Cards. I live in Southeast MO.
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Southeast Missouri
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Bond: Long-Term Mass Transit Investment "Not Stimulative"
TPMDC | Talking Points Memo | Bond: Long-Term Mass Transit Investment "Not Stimulative"
Senator Kit Bond is giving us a nice kick in the head on his way to retirement.
It's just sickening. Our transit systems need help. This state cannot depend solely on cars all the time. The rural areas need cars. The urban areas do not need cars. Cars cause congestion and it dense areas of cities cars are not needed and are not the best option. What is Kit Bond thinking?
Want to call Kit Bond and tell him how you feel about this? Here's his contact info:
.: United States Senator Kit Bond :: Contact :.
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02-04-2009, 01:50 PM
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Sayer of true stuff
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Location: And I'm moving, yet again ... KC here I come
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Short-sighted moron.
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02-04-2009, 02:57 PM
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STL for Blues and Cards. I live in Southeast MO.
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Location: Southeast Missouri
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Go to his website. Write him an email. I doubt he'll read it, but maybe if he gets enough emails pointing out how wrong he is, he'll change his mind. Leave him a message on one of his many numbers.
We need some kind of protest also.
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02-04-2009, 07:34 PM
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Member
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Location: Central West End, St. Louis, MO
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Senator Bond is an out of date relic. I hope that we can replace him with someone better after he retires.
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02-05-2009, 09:20 AM
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Junior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by STLCardsBlues1989
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Federal investment in mass transit in St. Louis (Metrolink) may in fact be a good idea that deserves debate. Short term economic stimulis it is not, which is the point of the bill currently being debated. |
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02-05-2009, 09:27 AM
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Sayer of true stuff
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Wrong.
A healthy light-rail system employs many people, draws businesses to St. Louis, allows people to get to the jobs they already have and reduces our dependence on foreign oil.
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02-05-2009, 11:40 AM
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Senior Member
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I believe any type of infrastructure construction, whether light rail or highway, is both short and long-term stimulus due to the instant jobs created by the construction. I'm a big fan of public transportation (and use it nearly every day), but I don't think the stimulus bill should be limited to mass transit only, as then it will only benefit urban areas rather than transportation needs in rural parts of the country.
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02-05-2009, 01:33 PM
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Sayer of true stuff
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More than 80 percent of Americans live in metro areas.
That's not to say I entirely disagree, but I think this is a very interesting, often overlooked statistic.
If one of Obama's key goals is to lessen the dependence on foreign oil it makes sense that he'd be pushing for public transit funding over funding for roads.
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02-05-2009, 02:46 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: The City of St. Louis
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aragx6
More than 80 percent of Americans live in metro areas.
That's not to say I entirely disagree, but I think this is a very interesting, often overlooked statistic.
If one of Obama's key goals is to lessen the dependence on foreign oil it makes sense that he'd be pushing for public transit funding over funding for roads.
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That statistic may be true, but also keep in mind that just about everything we own is shipped by truck, through the rural areas between cities. Some interstates and highways are nice, while others are crumbling and dangerous (Missouri has made leaps and bounds when it comes to highways in the past few years). Better roads in these areas equals lower shipping costs, therefore lower product costs, and safer roads for all of us. As I said I'm a huge fan of public transportation and think it should be funded, but highway projects should also be funded with the stimulus package.
I'm not a fan of Kit Bond and definitely don't agree that mass transit "isn't stimulative". I do like Claire McCaskill though, and even met her a when she was running for governor in 2004. It will be interesting to see who the junior senator from Missouri will be when Bond retires.
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02-05-2009, 04:15 PM
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demented & deranged optimist skeptic
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Location: MO Ozarkian in NE Hoosierana
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Goal of the stimulus package is... to stimulate the economy, relatively soon, and with enough power to get bang for the buck w/ this ~900b dollars of our moneys. Do the items included within the bill as proposed meet those goals? Improving infrastructure is very important - such is highly critical to our economy, has great benefits across the board. Those infrastructures, IMHO, include rail, mass transit, highways, bridges, etc - all of this. At the end of the day, it seems that the formula to divide up which part of that puzzle gets how much is what is being debated...
The Washington Monthly
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... As for the vote itself, there were 58 senators in support of the infrastructure expansion, including two Republicans (Specter and Bond). There were 39 votes against, and 38 were Republicans. ...
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Lastly, really buggers me about this stimulus package is the BS crud w/in it... the pork and favourite projects have got to get out of there.
Slash the pork in Senate stimulus bill | Midwest Voices
Oink oink: The smell of pork | KansasCity.com Prime Buzz
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