Best mall in St. Louis? (sales, incomes, sales tax)

[DinsdalePirahna]

Way to spin it, Post Dispatch (http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/hit-the-road-jack/hit-the-road-jack/2009/10/st-louis-ranked-third-best-for-an-affordable-getaway/ - broken link) ranked at the bottom for Shopping and style.

But right up there with Cleveland and KC for Affordable getaways

[Marksman84]

Originally Posted by DinsdalePirahna

Way to spin it, Post Dispatch (http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/hit-the-road-jack/hit-the-road-jack/2009/10/st-louis-ranked-third-best-for-an-affordable-getaway/ - broken link) ranked at the bottom for Shopping and style.

But right up there with Cleveland and KC for Affordable getaways

Hmmmm....this poll reeks of dubious veracity. Granted, there is no Rodeo Drive-type element in St. Louis (Plaza Frotenac being the closest facsimilie), but I challenge the following:

(1) How did Houston get #8 for attractive people (STL #29)? I spent a week in Houston and saw quite a few large, repugnant Jabba the Hut types. And we were schooled by Kansas City (#15)?

(2) Not to pick on Houston, but as I am an active person in the STL running community, it's safe to say that STL is more active and fit than Houston, Nashville and a few others on the list.

(3) Is this organization based in MPLS/St. Paul or Houston?

Notice how Detroit wasn't even polled/mentioned!

[kshe95girl]

Originally Posted by Marksman84

(2) Not to pick on Houston, but as I am an active person in the STL running community, it's safe to say that STL is more active and fit than Houston, Nashville and a few others on the list.

Alright, you know the drill, we are Missourians, show us pix!

[OA 5599]

Houston is one of the fattest cities in the United States. See these "rankings": Top 25 fittest and fattest cities in the U.S. - Healthy Living on Shine , or this one USATODAY.com - Magazine names Seattle as fittest city, Houston as fattest

Although, after visiting Salt Lake City (fittest city according to Men's Health) earlier this year, I was very surprised about the number of overweight people I out and about, considering Utah usually ranks up there with Colorado as the leanest state in the USA. Also lots of plastic surgery billboards in that town, of all things.

Regardless of what the lists say, St. Louis seems much more fit than I had envisioned it prior to moving here.

[DinsdalePirahna]

The obesity problem is national problem and apparent mostly in poorer areas. That's what happens when your meals consist of microwave burritos and diet sodas from the local convenience store. Spin it anyway you want, but those people are essentially victims of a chain of poor personal choices and habits.

Around here I only notice the obesity/unattractive problem when you venture into urban core areas or places where rednecks hang out, which coincides with the I-70 corridor. Most upscale areas around here seem to have healthy, fit and generally attractive (subjective) populations.

Having come from Southern California, where the shopping centers are nationally known destinations, the shopping here is adequate at best. (but my only reason to hit the shopping centers was for the clubs, restaurants and of course, the Apple store)

Style Around here is another story, probably about 5 years behind what is going on on the coasts (ladies: UGGS are so 15 years ago).

I'm no trendsetter myself, but I still won't dress like a dork, Business casual should have a bit more panache than dockers and golf shirt. I won't wear sleeveless t-shirts (especially at clubs). I am definitely not the gold-chains and baggie pants type. I do notice a lot of suburban white kids wearing FUBU other ghetto accoutrements (which looks dumb on black kids, and even dumber on some suburban white mall rat)

[MeetMeinSTL]

Originally Posted by DinsdalePirahna

The obesity problem is national problem and apparent mostly in poorer areas. That's what happens when your meals consist of microwave burritos and diet sodas from the local convenience store. Spin it anyway you want, but those people are essentially victims of a chain of poor personal choices and habits.

Around here I only notice the obesity/unattractive problem when you venture into urban core areas or places where rednecks hang out, which coincides with the I-70 corridor. Most upscale areas around here seem to have healthy, fit and generally attractive (subjective) populations.

Having come from Southern California, where the shopping centers are nationally known destinations, the shopping here is adequate at best. (but my only reason to hit the shopping centers was for the clubs, restaurants and of course, the Apple store)

Style Around here is another story, probably about 5 years behind what is going on on the coasts (ladies: UGGS are so 15 years ago).

I'm no trendsetter myself, but I still won't dress like a dork, Business casual should have a bit more panache than dockers and golf shirt. I won't wear sleeveless t-shirts (especially at clubs). I am definitely not the gold-chains and baggie pants type. I do notice a lot of suburban white kids wearing FUBU other ghetto accoutrements (which looks dumb on black kids, and even dumber on some suburban white mall rat)

Microwaved burritos? Bad. Diet sodas? Good.

[Marksman84]

Originally Posted by MeetMeinSTL

Microwaved burritos? Bad. Diet sodas? Good.

Not really, unless it's only one per day. The carbonation and aspartame do nasty things to the body over a period of time, and too much caffiene is not a good thing either. Growing children/teens shouldn't even touch this stuff.

A balanced diet + occasional, rare junk food + occasional wine or dark beer + regular exercise + sufficient rest = happy physical, mental and emotional state.

[DinsdalePirahna]

Originally Posted by Marksman84

Not really, unless it's only one per day. The carbonation and aspartame do nasty things to the body over a period of time, and too much caffiene is not a good thing either. Growing children/teens shouldn't even touch this stuff.

A balanced diet + occasional, rare junk food + occasional wine or dark beer + regular exercise + sufficient rest = happy physical, mental and emotional state.

Thread creep. My friend the cardiologist says the best thing for your body is cheap red wine. (the redder, the better, cheaper is a keeper) The guy is 80 years old, and looks like he's 50. Between his physical condition, his career, and the fact that I like red wine, I would tend to agree with him.

Totally agree with you on diet Coke. Aspartame is synthesized from coal (carbon). Your body is not designed to break down anything synthetic. Sucrolose is probably the better choice but that is also frankenfood.

You are also more like to gain and retain weight with diet sodas. One theory on this is that people think that because they drink diet soda, they can eat more and crappier foods.
The other theory is that diet sodas actually create a craving for organic sugars, which the body in sugar starvation mode, stores those sugars as fat. there are plenty of other theories on this phenomena.

I just notice a lot of really obese people drinking diet sodas and not getting thinner. Drink water (out of the tap is just fine)

[Azalea City Man]

I will never touch a diet soda in my life. People should try to intake less sugar, but they should never try to replace it with asparatame/splenda/sugar alchohal/etc.

A moderate amount Red wine or whiskey each day is very healthy. My great-grandfather did a shot or two of whiskey each day after work (per doctor's orders) and lived to be 103.

The most important thing, however, is a good diet and exercise. The less amount of processed foods, the better.

[southcitykitty]

I prefer the Galleria or the Mills.