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Unread 01-25-2010, 12:28 PM
Location: Clayton, MO
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See cold doesn't bother me. If it's 5 degrees and sunny i'm ok with that. I know how to dress for the weather. What get's me are the overcast wet ugly days we've had so many of the past 2 weeks. Typically I like winter, but not this year. Maybe I too, am getting old
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Unread 02-09-2010, 08:17 AM
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What is interesting if anyone knows is how much less extreme winters have been the last decade as opposed to previous decades. *though the 70's had notoriously bitter winters everywhere* One fact is that snow rarely stays around more than 72 hours except in shady areas and also over 6 inches. Another fact is below zero temperatures have become very rare. I think before this winter the last time a below zero temp was recorded was a decade ago. An interesting note is how it is allowing the possibility of plants and animals to exist here that couldn't in the past. The yearly temerature mininum is now 10 degrees higher than in the past to above zero now.

It actually within this century depending if it rises much higher to have plants and animals survive in the area previously thought impossible due to less severe winters including less snow cover and icy lakes and rivers becoming rarer. Picutre the possibility of Alligators in the rivers and some types of Palm trees growing downtown. (Example some types of Palmettos)
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Unread 02-09-2010, 09:42 AM
Location: St. Louis, MO
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Given this past winter, I highly doubt St. Louis would EVER be able to host palm trees.

I must admit that being from Central Ohio and having lived in Central New York and New Hampshire that I'm liking this winter better than winter in any of the other states, but I don't ever see palm trees growing in St. Louis.
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Unread 02-09-2010, 11:52 AM
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Acturally some types of palm trees can survive temperatures in the range of at least -5F. I have seen some online survive in minimal cover as far north as along the great lakes which is slightly colder than St. Louis. It is only the average yearly minunum that is the biggest factor in plant viability. This winter is the anomaly than the rule being at least the most severe since 2000. Living in Atlanta I see many types of large palms grow well and yearly minunum temps are only about 10 degrees warmer on average. Look up dwarf palmettos which show a viability range to at least St. Louis. Many plants marketed in St. Louis are assuming much colder temps in the range of an average yearly minunum of -10F. This winter had the first subzero low in a decade and only 2 days at -10F since the early 1980's. Talk to any old resident and they will admit winters are warmer than the old days.(also summers often are not as hot as in the past, especially the 30's and 50's)
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Unread 02-16-2010, 11:17 PM
Location: Saint Louis, Mo
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I lived in Chicago for awhile, and I could never adjust, even as a kid. The Spring is way more rainy in Chicago and You leaves a few months sooner in St.Louis, Last year They were still in bloom in June, back in Chicago.

It is Muggy in the summer, but it felt like something was missing in Chicago not having the humidity, You still get 70's and and some 80's deep into October, in St.Louis, While its in the 50s in Chicago.

I love having Randon warm up weeks in St.Louis winters, you see 50's on fluke weeks even during February.

Point being you get 4 seasons in St.Louis, but unlike Chicago St.Louis has a refreshing short winter.

Summer of 09 was horrible in Chicago, you saw allot of mid 70's and I was wearing jackets at night. It was very strange, but before that Chicago seemed to have decent summers, but much shorter.

To sum-mer it up, I'd say St.Louis and Chicago have non comparable weather, St.Louis should be compared to Memphis, and Louisville, before Chicago.

Originally Posted by bestplacetolive View Post
Considering relocating from Cali to STL, but lived in Chicago for 8 yrs, so know what Midwestern weather is like.

However, I've been told by some STL residents that the weather in STL is "so much better" than Chicago, because it's not nearly as cold in the winter.

Is that true?

How about the summer? Looks like it's a bit hotter than in Chicago (yikes!)

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