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I stand corrected. We also have a Tribeca (along with a 2002 WRX) with a 5/spd auto and it is also biased 45/55, but I thought the older 4 speed autos where much more front drive biased.
I stand corrected. We also have a Tribeca (along with a 2002 WRX) with a 5/spd auto and it is also biased 45/55, but I thought the older 4 speed autos where much more front drive biased.
Used to be that you could pretty much count on the non-turbo 4-cylinder autos to be FWD-biased. I don't think it's quite so clear-cut any more.
Some people don't want to put up with a clutch on their only car. I'm one of them, hence 2014 Forester XT instead of 2013 WRX. Forester XT will get better gas mileage anyway.
Sorry for the late reply.
And I agree, the Forester XT is an excellent alternative for people who favor an automatic transmission, it's more compliant as well and certainly more utilitarian.
So I agree 100%, it's a good thing Subaru also makes the Forester XT. Personally I'm a bit bummed the upcoming XT will not be available with a manual 6-speed, because frankly, I'd get one.
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The GTI has offered an automatic option for a long time (a dual clutch) and the manual transmission is still standard.
I totally disagree. A dual clutch completely outperforms a manual transmission. So unless you truly find a clutch pedal to be "fun" there's no reason for a manual.
I suppose you think Formula 1 cars are pointless then?
I do indeed greatly prefer a manual transmission, it works more seamlessly for me. (And yes, that's a subjective opinion) I have driven the GTI with a DSG and I didn't like it too much, it's not tactile enough and not integral enough to the driving experience.
And yes, outside of their very limited scope of driving on perfectly paved racetrack at very high speeds, F1 cars are completely useless. But more important than that, I don't drive an F1 car, I drive a street car, and if I ever do get to drive a car on a track, I doubt my skills will get to a level where I'll need a DSG to make up for my slow shifting.
If you learn how to do it, you will never worry about shifting all the time.
There are plenty of good reasons out there to not want to drive a clutch pedal, from a lack of physical capability to a traffic-filled commute that would be a pain. Ultimately the only reason that counts and the one you have to respect is "I don't want a clutch pedal."
I know how to drive one. I still don't want to worry about it. My commute would be MURDER if I had to mess with a clutch every day. Do I like the engagement? Yeah, but if it means dealing with a clutch, the frustration in stop-and-go traffic isn't worth it, I'd rather deal with a DCT or CVT.
I don't particularly care for automatics unless Mazda builds them.
At least the Forester gets a held back engine. It doesn't deserve to have the full tilt engine mated to an automatic. Go for the manual. Subaru built this car and put a manual transmission for a good reason. You won't be disappointed. The WRX STI with an automatic feels neutered at best.
There are plenty of good reasons out there to not want to drive a clutch pedal, from a lack of physical capability to a traffic-filled commute that would be a pain. Ultimately the only reason that counts and the one you have to respect is "I don't want a clutch pedal."
I know how to drive one. I still don't want to worry about it. My commute would be MURDER if I had to mess with a clutch every day. Do I like the engagement? Yeah, but if it means dealing with a clutch, the frustration in stop-and-go traffic isn't worth it, I'd rather deal with a DCT or CVT.
I don't particularly care for automatics unless Mazda builds them.
I can kinda see not wanting to deal with a clutch, but really I don't even notice that I drive an manual anymore. It's like breathing.
Even when I lived in LA, and dealt with LA traffic, it wasn't a big deal. I never wished for an automatic. Granted the shifter in my Civic SI (at the time) was really nice feeling, so that might have had something to do with it.
You're aware the STI doesn't come with an automatic, and has never come with an automatic in the US?
Moderator cut: Name calling It's called the A-Line and it's available in Japan. I've been over there (and even used to live there) and have driven it during my last visit. Try again.
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There are plenty of good reasons out there to not want to drive a clutch pedal, from a lack of physical capability to a traffic-filled commute that would be a pain. Ultimately the only reason that counts and the one you have to respect is "I don't want a clutch pedal."
I know how to drive one. I still don't want to worry about it. My commute would be MURDER if I had to mess with a clutch every day. Do I like the engagement? Yeah, but if it means dealing with a clutch, the frustration in stop-and-go traffic isn't worth it, I'd rather deal with a DCT or CVT.
This is exactly why I got the DSG transmission in my GTI. It's my only car so it's my daily driver. If I was simply using the car for fun I would probably have gotten manual.
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I do indeed greatly prefer a manual transmission, it works more seamlessly for me. (And yes, that's a subjective opinion) I have driven the GTI with a DSG and I didn't like it too much, it's not tactile enough and not integral enough to the driving experience.
You are certainly entitled to that opinion and I would not dispute that with you.
Sorry to hear you did not like the DSG, personally I love it.
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And yes, outside of their very limited scope of driving on perfectly paved racetrack at very high speeds, F1 cars are completely useless. But more important than that, I don't drive an F1 car, I drive a street car, and if I ever do get to drive a car on a track, I doubt my skills will get to a level where I'll need a DSG to make up for my slow shifting.
My point was they didn't build the car for people to have fun shifting gears. Hence why many other cars in the same class offer automatic options, often in the way of a DCT. They are affordable performance cars. Putting an auto in one is a far cry from making it "pointless".
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