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Old 03-05-2013, 05:03 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Except 100 mph...

lol, very true. But it does have more HP than the Subbuie by 36HP, so that's worth something....right!?!? haha. At least it does 0-60 in the mid 7's now with the new 3.6 V6. Before it was pushing almost 10 seconds!
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Old 03-05-2013, 06:04 PM
 
Location: Whittier, CA
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What about BMW X1?
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Old 03-05-2013, 06:22 PM
 
Location: South Park, San Diego
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It's odd that the tow rating is so modest, I think my 02 WRX wagon is rated to tow 2000 lbs, not that I have ever done it.

I think the BMW X1 is a sweet little crossover but I can't imagine it having a much greater tow capacity, and while the AWD will provide benefits in inclement weather and road conditions it does not have the capabilities along with the much greater ground clearance of the Forester to hit the trails. Also, regardless of the seemingly affordable starting price, BMWs, like Porsches charges an arm and a leg for absolutely everything extra. That car similarly configured to the Forester XT is going to be kissing $50k.
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Old 03-05-2013, 09:05 PM
 
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The Forester is one of the more backcountry-capable ALL-wheel-drive (AWD) vehicles, but it is not a "true" 4WD designed for arduous backcountry use. If the OP contemplates using a vehicle for that kind of duty, he/she needs to get a decent 4WD vehicle--undertanding that it will come at some penalty in initial cost and fuel economy. The situation in the AWD/4WD market has really reversed in the last 15 years or so. Back then, people were buying backcountry-capable 4WD's that they never once drove on anything more than a smooth gravel road. Now the "cool" thing is a "cute-ute" AWD. There are now so few truly backcountry-capable 4WD's being sold that finding a model to fit that utilitarian need is pretty difficult.

My biggest beef against the Forester turbo models are that they are not a full-blown 4WD, but only manage to get mediocre fuel economy, and that on premium fuel. For only a few miles per gallon less, there are backcountry-capable 4WD pickups out there that will get fuel economy not too far below the Forester turbo, and on regular fuel. And, for towing, I don't like anything but a body-on-frame vehicle, which the Forester ain't.

I wouldn't mind a non-turbo Forester for highway and mild backcountry use, but it's not the vehicle for hard-core 4-wheeling or towing.
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Old 03-06-2013, 06:23 AM
 
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2012 Toyota RAV4 6 cyl. with tow package upgrade, 3500-lb. tow capacity.
269 hp @ 6200 rpm
torque 246 ft-lbs. @ 4700 rpm
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Old 03-08-2013, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Whittier, CA
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Toyota RAV4 is out as I'd like to buy new and the 2013 4 cyl is ridiculously underpowered... to me the '13 RAV 4 is nothing more than a Toyota Corolla in the shape of an SUV
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Old 03-09-2013, 05:48 AM
 
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What about BMW X1?
That seems more like a proper car than a CUV.. are they in the same class?
I've been liking the styling of the new Ford Escape.
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Old 03-09-2013, 12:14 PM
 
Location: Not far from Fairbanks, AK
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Toyota RAV4 is out as I'd like to buy new and the 2013 4 cyl is ridiculously underpowered... to me the '13 RAV 4 is nothing more than a Toyota Corolla in the shape of an SUV
Agree with you. Toyota made a huge mistake by dropping the 6 cylinder motor on the latest Rav 4. I traded my 2009 Forester for a 2010 Rav 4 V6 and gave it to my wife. It has a lot of power and towing capacity, lots of cargo room, and best of all is pretty good on fuel usage. During the winter it does around 24 MPG combined (city/highway). But during the summer it does around 29 MPG on the highway, and around 26 in the city. It has a 5-speed automatic transmission.
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Old 03-09-2013, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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2014 Forester seems a big step up for the model. 2014 Subaru Forester Review by David Thomas
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Old 03-09-2013, 07:59 PM
 
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2014 Forester seems a big step up for the model. 2014 Subaru Forester Review by David Thomas
When they compared against the Mazda CX-5 in the review, they left out the more powerful 185HP motor that is new for 2014 on the mid and high end CX-5 trim(base CX-5 still has smaller motor).
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