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Due to chronic physical pain nearly 5 yrs. old, I have to take 800 mg OTC ibuprofen once, twice or 3x/day often. I can take the drug several days in a row and then become scared due to the known danger of ibuprofen-caused heart attack and stroke-- so due to this worry, I stop taking the heavy doses of ibuprofen, soon greatly worsen and suffer physically in a couple or in a few days, and then am forced to take ibuprofen again. This on-and-off pattern has been going on since May 2013. [The NSAIDs -- and ibuprofen is one of them -- can cause tinnitis. I don't have tinnitis and worry that so much ibuprofen could cause this. You see, music is so important to me: I couldn't stand constant noise in my head from tinnitis. I wouldn't want to live without my music.] I understand that ibuprofen ruins or reduces uptake of the B vitamins (which I currently get only from foods). Also, I just learned last week that I have NAFLD (non-alcoholic fatty liver disease). Low or absent choline causes NAFLD but I don't know for certain if I have low or no choline. Anyway, I'd like to know what people here say about taking a B vitamin complex when one takes a great deal of ibuprofen and also tell about taking choline (which is somehow related to the B vitamins).
Should a B vitamin complex have all B components at the same mg level, or should each B vitamin in a complex be tailored at some individual mg level by some good maker of the complex?
For people who have researched this, what do you have to say about the levels of the B vitamins in a complex?
What combinations of B vitamins are way too high and may cause some kind of problem?
Due to chronic physical pain nearly 5 yrs. old, I have to take 800 mg OTC ibuprofen once, twice or 3x/day often. I can take the drug several days in a row and then become scared due to the known danger of ibuprofen-caused heart attack and stroke-- so due to this worry, I stop taking the heavy doses of ibuprofen, soon greatly worsen and suffer physically in a couple or in a few days, and then am forced to take ibuprofen again. This on-and-off pattern has been going on since May 2013. [The NSAIDs -- and ibuprofen is one of them -- can cause tinnitis. I don't have tinnitis and worry that so much ibuprofen could cause this. You see, music is so important to me: I couldn't stand constant noise in my head from tinnitis. I wouldn't want to live without my music.] I understand that ibuprofen ruins or reduces uptake of the B vitamins (which I currently get only from foods). Also, I just learned last week that I have NAFLD (non-alcoholic fatty liver disease). Low or absent choline causes NAFLD but I don't know for certain if I have low or no choline. Anyway, I'd like to know what people here say about taking a B vitamin complex when one takes a great deal of ibuprofen and also tell about taking choline (which is somehow related to the B vitamins).
Should a B vitamin complex have all B components at the same mg level, or should each B vitamin in a complex be tailored at some individual mg level by some good maker of the complex?
For people who have researched this, what do you have to say about the levels of the B vitamins in a complex?
What combinations of B vitamins are way too high and may cause some kind of problem?
Thanks
Why not ask your doctor? If you're deficient in any of the B vitamins he can recommend what you need to get your levels up to a normal range.
That is a lot of ibuprofen. I take enough which is 400mg two times per day. 2 before bed and then 2 at 1:30PM. I deal with bodywide OA and a mess from hip replacement, so many complications.
I get a lot buzz in my ear now and then but not constant.
I also believe my grape seed extract helps with that ear buzz issue.
Now for in between ibuprofen, I've found Pain RX herbal supplement and I get some pain relief with this supp which I take 1/2 tylenol with it two times per day. This product is from Hi-Tech Pharmaceuticals and available from online suppliers amazon included.
I'm never out of total pain...but I sleep good so the two ibuprofen before sleep works good to sleep thru the night.
I do have fears of these pain meds as I ended up with a stomach ulcer back in the 80's from a pharma anti inflammatory so I have the good fortune of finding DGL for stomach protection. I like Natural Factors brand the best and I've tried many over the years I take DGL,,so far so good....I share this link when I want to share DGL with others.
That is a lot of ibuprofen. I take enough which is 400mg two times per day. 2 before bed and then 2 at 1:30PM. I deal with bodywide OA and a mess from hip replacement, so many complications.
I get a lot buzz in my ear now and then but not constant.
I also believe my grape seed extract helps with that ear buzz issue.
Now for in between ibuprofen, I've found Pain RX herbal supplement and I get some pain relief with this supp which I take 1/2 tylenol with it two times per day. This product is from Hi-Tech Pharmaceuticals and available from online suppliers amazon included.
I'm never out of total pain...but I sleep good so the two ibuprofen before sleep works good to sleep thru the night.
I do have fears of these pain meds as I ended up with a stomach ulcer back in the 80's from a pharma anti inflammatory so I have the good fortune of finding DGL for stomach protection. I like Natural Factors brand the best and I've tried many over the years I take DGL,,so far so good....I share this link when I want to share DGL with others.
I'm seeing a new DC and DO both work from same clinic and the DO is adamant about me getting off Ibuprofen. Says linked to heart attacks/strokes, probably keeping my BP elevated and would a patient rather take an opiod that is more likened to the body. But these opiates cause constipation and I won't take them. He wrote me two scripts and I'm not going to fill them.
The DO is working with dextrose prolotherapy for my joints and says the ibuprofen works AGAINST this work, so threatened to stop this work if I didn't get off ibuprofen. So...I'm leaning on Pain-RX and Arthritis Tylenol to keep moving and his work now.
Read the documentary on Pain RX and how it works.
This DO has gotten to know me in the short time I'm seeing him and he says "you are addicted to ibuprofen"....many are and I HOPE he's gotten me off this pain drug.
Last edited by jaminhealth; 08-02-2016 at 12:41 PM..
I'm seeing a new DC and DO both work from same clinic and the DO is adamant about me getting off Ibuprofen. Says linked to heart attacks/strokes, probably keeping my BP elevated and would a patient rather take an opiod that is more likened to the body. But these opiates cause constipation and I won't take them. He wrote me two scripts and I'm not going to fill them.
The DO is working with dextrose prolotherapy for my joints and says the ibuprofen works AGAINST this work, so threatened to stop this work if I didn't get off ibuprofen. So...I'm leaning on Pain-RX and Arthritis Tylenol to keep moving and his work now.
Read the documentary on Pain RX and how it works.
This DO has gotten to know me in the short time I'm seeing him and he says "you are addicted to ibuprofen"....many are and I HOPE he's gotten me off this pain drug.
Your substituting one Cox2 inhibitor for another (sales claim). I would imagine if they both work as claimed, they will do the same negative things to your body.
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It's not about a sales claim, it's the article in the sales company's claim on Pain Rx. I need to get off ibuprofen and Pain RX and Tylenol seem to be the safest for pain FOR ME. Maybe for many others too. I buy from Lucky and don't care where one buys it, it works for pain reduction. I don't want to buy the opioid that the DO says is better to take than ibuprofen...that's pretty clear in what I wrote. The opioids are constipating and I don't need that issue. Dealt with that a lot in my life and it's under control with mag and Vit C.
I'd love not to live with the pain I do.
I don't understand your comments "substituting one cox 2 inhibitor for another"....ibuprofen is not a cox 2 inhibitor.
Last edited by jaminhealth; 08-02-2016 at 04:02 PM..
I dunno, I don't take them and may be confusing it with something else.
When I googled just now I got this from wikipedia:
The existing non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs) differ in their relative specificities for COX-2 and COX-1; while aspirin and ibuprofen inhibit COX-2 and COX-1 enzymes, other NSAIDs appear to have partial COX-2 specificity, particularly meloxicam (Mobic).
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If a person reads the whole article on Pain RX and re-reads it if necessary it's more understandable. For those who don't care, don't bother. I've been taking it 2 yrs and alternating with ibuprofen but NEED to get off ibuprofen NSAIDS.
I'm never totally out of pain, but no pain when I sleep.
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