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Old 04-06-2012, 11:47 AM
 
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Precisely, I will wait for the revised 2010 census data to see if CNY is on a sustained growth pattern. I have seen these university studies before and they are generally wrong, it depends on their methodology. I could accept the data if it said that Onondaga County (for example) lost 65 people (using the cornell number) from the 8600 gained from the 2010 census. However, if Cornerll is saying Onondaga (again, for example) went from a 8600 person gain to a 65 person loss, there is something REALLY, REALLY wrong! My concern, this will hit the papers/press and people will jump all over it!
My thoughts exactly.
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Old 04-06-2012, 12:55 PM
 
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I actually just heard it on the radio this morning and looked it up for a link.

Not personally involved.
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Old 04-06-2012, 02:04 PM
 
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Precisely, I will wait for the revised 2010 census data to see if CNY is on a sustained growth pattern. I have seen these university studies before and they are generally wrong, it depends on their methodology. Data analysis can be skewed anyway you want, but the census is a "head count". The census is flawed to be sure, but it is not based on building permits or some other representative statistic for example. I could accept the data if it said that Onondaga County (for example) lost 65 people (using the cornell number) from the 8600 gained from the 2010 census. However, if Cornell is concluding that Onondaga (again, for example) went from a 8600 person gain to a 65 person loss, there is something REALLY, REALLY wrong! My concern, this will hit the papers/press and people will jump all over it!
Onondaga County lost 65 people from the 2010 Census population of 467,026. The estimated popuatlion is 466,961. The 2000 census had the population at 458,000. Cornell did an analysis from the 2011 census estimates.

I agree with your skepticism on Cornell. A few years ago prior to the 2010 Census they predicted Onondaga County's population would go down to 430,000 in the 2010 census which turned out to be very incorrect.
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Old 04-07-2012, 05:13 PM
 
Location: Capitol Hill - Washington, DC
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Was wondering why my apt was so chilly last night and discovered my heat was out. Went down in the basement to investigate and discovered it was flooded with raw sewage! Slumlords aren't fixing it till at least Monday. Fun times!
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Old 04-07-2012, 05:19 PM
 
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Is that legal??

Raw sewage is chock full of unhealthy things, seems like there might be a law.
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Old 04-07-2012, 05:27 PM
 
Location: Capitol Hill - Washington, DC
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Is that legal??

Raw sewage is chock full of unhealthy things, seems like there might be a law.
I called the health dept and they're closed on the weekends. The fire and police depts were no help either - they said it was a civil matter and there was nothing they could do.

I'm really giving my slumlords the benefit of the doubt here and not calling in my own plumber. They have until Monday. Monday hits and no work, s**t is going to hit the fan.

Slumlord had THE NERVE to get an attitude on the phone with me when I threatened to call a plumber. I pay rent so I don't have to deal with this stuff.
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Old 04-07-2012, 05:35 PM
 
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s**t is going to hit the fan
You have a fan in your basement??
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Old 04-07-2012, 05:39 PM
 
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You have a fan in your basement??
Har har har!
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Old 04-08-2012, 03:52 AM
 
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I called the health dept and they're closed on the weekends.
Reading this before work it hit me, this is what so awesome about government. Your a taxpayer and they will only help you 9-5 M-F on non-Holidays. If you were on welfare they would have somebody there in an hour.

Reminds me of the old saying thats the biggest reason I'm a gun owner, when seconds count the police are just minutes away!!!
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Old 04-08-2012, 06:19 AM
 
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Reading this before work it hit me, this is what so awesome about government. Your a taxpayer and they will only help you 9-5 M-F on non-Holidays. If you were on welfare they would have somebody there in an hour.

Reminds me of the old saying thats the biggest reason I'm a gun owner, when seconds count the police are just minutes away!!!
Oh yeah, it totally irked me. I got the answering machine - if you're making a complaint, we will get back to you. Apparently complaints only matter during business hours. The only answering service they had was for public health emergencies.
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