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Old 09-12-2011, 03:50 PM
 
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Sean, does Pataki and many politicians in the assembly ring a bell? Actually, NY has had quite a few Republican politicians representing the state on all levels.

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Old 09-12-2011, 04:22 PM
 
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Sorry, my bad. I meant a Republican winning the state for POTUS. I was thinking it but wasn't clear.

Pataki was a RINO but he was alright I guess.

BUt to the OP I'm saying if someone is a Lib or doesn't care they might make it in NY but starting out as a Ron Paul fan NY is not gonna be a good fit at all. Explaining free markets in the most union infested state would be like smashing her head into a brick wall. Also voting know your guy is never gonna win is something not everyone is cut out for. I have never once had my guy win. Not once.
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Old 09-12-2011, 04:25 PM
 
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Sorry, my bad. I meant a Republican winning the state for POTUS. I was thinking it but wasn't clear.

Pataki was a RINO but he was alright I guess.

BUt to the OP I'm saying if someone is a Lib or doesn't care they might make it in NY but starting out as a Ron Paul fan NY is not gonna be a good fit at all. Explaining free markets in the most union infested state would be like smashing her head into a brick wall. Also voting know your guy is never gonna win is something not everyone is cut out for. I have never once had my guy win. Not once.
Admitting defeat, more than a year prior... and when he's destroying his opponents on polls? STOP THAT. lol
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Old 09-12-2011, 04:44 PM
 
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I don't know enough about Ron Paul yet to say if I am behind him or not.

If he gets the nomination he has my vote.

But whomever gets the nomination will not carry NY and thats just a stonecold fact. I vote everytime because its the right thing to do but it sucks knowing my vote is wasted.
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Old 09-12-2011, 04:51 PM
 
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I don't know enough about Ron Paul yet to say if I am behind him or not.

If he gets the nomination he has my vote.

But whomever gets the nomination will not carry NY and thats just a stonecold fact. I vote everytime because its the right thing to do but it sucks knowing my vote is wasted.
I'm actually *shocked* with how many liberal and/or Democrat friends I have, who are either planning to or willing to vote for him... he really just might win the primary. He quite possibly could be the most successful write-in in history.
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Old 09-12-2011, 05:16 PM
 
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Another the OP might like is that the ability to ski can literally be a daily occurrence in this area with 4 skiing locations in or just outside of Onondaga County. If you include Greek Peak, it would be 5.
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Old 09-13-2011, 04:14 AM
 
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Well I love it when young people are full of hope and idealism so I'll not kill her dreams.

But to the OP just know that under the Electoral College system nobody but a Democrat will EVER carry NY. Which means you will becoming part of the problem not the solution. If this Country ever rights itself it will be without your help and you will be able to claim no part of the credit.

This may very well be OK with the OP in which case she will love NY politics. I'm just throwing something out there she may not have thought of(or he, I forget).
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Old 09-13-2011, 06:27 AM
 
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I'm actually *shocked* with how many liberal and/or Democrat friends I have, who are either planning to or willing to vote for him... he really just might win the primary. He quite possibly could be the most successful write-in in history.
At the surface level I could support some of his platform, but some of his ideas... are approaching should-be-institutionalized levels in my book. Even if I don't agree with him, though, I do admire his libertarian consistency.
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Old 09-13-2011, 07:10 AM
 
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At the surface level I could support some of his platform, but some of his ideas... are approaching should-be-institutionalized levels in my book. Even if I don't agree with him, though, I do admire his libertarian consistency.
I think that that's the pearl of "his platform," which I phrase that way because they're not even his ideas... he's just the only one who's repeating them. It's the Constitution's platform, really. The Federal government has grown too large and smothered the rights of individual states, which is exactly in opposition to the intentions of our founding fathers.

What Ron Paul proposes makes us, understandably, uncomfortable. To say the least. Most of us haven't lived in a time when our current system didn't cushion us. Now, when we need the cushion our taxes should have paid for, we start to see why it's not there. MANY reasons, all directly related to a bloated central government.
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Old 09-13-2011, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Syracuse, NY
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It's incredible how far right politics in the United States have been skewed over the last 2-3 years, and this is coming from a moderate. Anything less than libertarianism is considered "Socialist" and "Leftist" (which I think is a ridiculous term. Great rebranding and word play by the ultraconservative side of the media. Brings up subliminal associations with Communism and Socialism in this country). How about some moderation and reasonable debate? We can certainly come up with solutions that will all make us somewhat happy, instead of the majority sacrificing their views and values to appease a very vocal and belligerent minority.
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