Baldwinsville–Lysander suburban Syracuse pictures (Florida, Liverpool: homes, construction, live)

[bellafinzi]

Originally Posted by Freebyrdjason

Thank You for sharing on here some of the great photos and bring back memories of back home. I appreciate it.

Thanks! So happy my photos are appreciated!

[bellafinzi]

That new development called Timber Banks is real impressive! I felt as if I had been transported to a booming southern city! Pooler (a Rochester based developer) is doing a wonderful job of developing the site so far.(construction just started this summer) Seeing this development has really renewed my passionate desire to see the Syracuse area boom.... so that projects like this one become commonplace all over the region.

Timber Banks - Master Plan & Amenities

My photos of Timber Banks:



The 175 acre Nicklaus Design eighteen-hole championship golf course under construction:







Luxury Apartments















Other sections under construction









These photos don't really do justice to the scale of this project. Can you tell I'm excited about this project?

[bellafinzi]

Does anyone know how well the single family homes in Timber Banks are selling? I've seen a few advertised in the newspaper lately. The homes look very well designed IMO. The last time I was there the single family homes section was just beginning the construction phase.

[boomvang]

I'm sorry, that development looks so much like what most of Florida has become it makes me shudder. What a horror if this type of thing became the norm up here. Yech.

[bellafinzi]

Originally Posted by boomvang

I'm sorry, that development looks so much like what most of Florida has become it makes me shudder. What a horror if this type of thing became the norm up here. Yech.

I beg to differ....

Rochester's suburbs are full of these type of developments. It's one of the main reasons why outsiders and newcomers to Upstate have a higher opinion of the Rochester area than the Syracuse area. Go see for yourself. Many outsiders think that Syracuse is all ghetto, run-down homes in disrepair and old small post world war II homes. Why? That's all you'll see from the highways. Not so in Rochester. All the major Highways outside Rochester weave through striking new developments. And the hotels are in nice suburban areas in the Rochester area. Much more impressive for outsiders.

If everyone thought like you did, no one would move to Florida, Raleigh, Charlotte, Austin or even suburban Rochester since most of these places are made up these type of developments.

I'm not going to discuss this topic again in this thread. If you want to discuss sprawl please post a new thread. (Normally I delete comments like yours in my photo threads since they are off topic.) Please get back on topic. Thank you.

[proulxfamily]

It's a double-edged sword... I agree that those types of developments are hideous, especially when there are a lot of them (and there already ARE a lot of them!) At the same time, the existence of those communes... I mean, communities... are often a sign of a flourishing economy.

Were.

The reason why Syracuse isn't suffering as deep a depression as the rest of the country is BECAUSE we didn't artificially inflate our market with cheaply built model homes as status symbols... at least, not *as much* as Florida, Raleigh, Charlotte, Austin or even suburban Rochester. People here tended to buy according to their means rather than as a false symbol of "success." Getting a loan for a model home you cannot TRULY AFFORD isn't success; it's failure, as our national market is currently proving. I'm proud of our area for that, at least. The mile after mile I see of developments, driving through Rochester, is something I roll my eyes at. Hideous. It's like all the goth teens trying to show their individuality... and end up roaming around in packs of... identically dressed kids. ::headdesk::

It just goes to show that all is not ideal simply because of an "idyllic" area. We, as individuals, are responsible for fulfilling OUR American dreams, wherever we are... not through THINGS but through ourselves and our hard work. Nowhere on Earth is there a Utopia and I'm proud of where I live because we're able to CREATE OUR OWN family and idyllic life here. Not through others' ideals but our own.

Syracuse is a place where there is *opportunity* to make a good life for yourself, rather than having one provided for you.

[RollsRoyce]

There needs to be some new development. There are always going to be relocating professionals and move up buyers that want new construction. I agree that many of the split levels, small colonials, and most recently ranches constructed by budget builders like Ryan, Gleason, JMG, Mufale (Summerset) and Eldan in the northern suburbs and places like Warners and Minoa are ugly and blight the landscape with their gravel driveways and pick up trucks. Syracuse's lower cost builders have bland designs that are dated and fail to incorporate more transitional styles like those seen in Buffalo, Rochester or even Binghamton.

Any healthy region needs a mix of housing options and styles. While I enjoy many older neighborhoods with distinctive architecture like Parsons Drive and Piercefield in Geddes, DeWittshire and Orvilton in DeWitt, Berkeley Park and Sedgwick in Syracuse among others, I prefer newer construction if built properly. In this economic environment it is probably good that new housing starts are declining since the area's population is not growing. If Onondaga County had 4,000 housing permits in 2008/2009 and the population was fast declining, many of the same problems now impacting overbuilt regions such as plummeting home values, an influx of low income renters inhabiting unsold housing inventory in the suburbs, and double digit unemployment rates would occur. When the economy recovers and if there is population growth/and or the creation of high paying jobs in Syracuse, I would like see new housing developments, the caveat being that they are well designed and upscale. Timber Banks looks promising so far, though I can see why some think otherwise.

[bellafinzi]

Thanks RollsRoyce! Great points!

[RollsRoyce]

Originally Posted by bellafinzi

Does anyone know how well the single family homes in Timber Banks are selling? I've seen a few advertised in the newspaper lately. The homes look very well designed IMO. The last time I was there the single family homes section was just beginning the construction phase.

Part of my daily ritual on Sundays is reading the Real Estate transactions in the paper. It appears only a few have sold so far. I haven't toured Timer Banks since fall, so I'm not sure if many spec homes have been constructed. Sales should pick up toward the summer when construction wraps up on some of the homes and people relocate or move up for the upcoming school year. So far only two homes have been built in the Brick Walk subdivision on 370 near Melia Park. Both homes look good with the larger of the two selling for about $700K.

[bellafinzi]

Thanks RollsRoyce!

I remember that Brick Walk subdivision from driving by it last summer. If I remember correctly, only about a dozen home sites exist in that very high end subdivision. With Timber Banks and now Brick Walk, looks like Lysander is turning into the next Manlius!