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Old 12-01-2012, 07:05 AM
 
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My family and I are looking at moving to the area. My husband may be going to Turning Stone. I am trying to look at rental houses that are at least 4 bedrooms with a minimum sq ft about 2500-3000. I have heard maybe Fayetteville area. Where would we find the best schools? I have a 4th grader and kindergartner. Any advice is welcome.
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Old 12-01-2012, 07:20 AM
 
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What's your price range and what kind of lifestyle would you prefer, making the transition easier?
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Old 12-01-2012, 09:07 AM
 
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Fayetteville is a very nice town if you can afford it.

The drive from Turning Screw is not a short one though. Two possible ways, the Thruway or SR-5 with the Thruway being closest to TS. Figger 20 miles and 45 minutes minimum under ideal conditions. Snow could add an hour easily but the Thruway is almost always open. RT 5 is shorter but much slower and loaded with speed traps. Speed limit changes at least 15 times on that 20 miles. Snow removal on 5 isn't too bad but expect the trip to take a couple hours at least afew times a Winter.

For a job at TS I would think living in Rome would be a much better choice. Or Westmoreland.
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Old 12-01-2012, 09:09 AM
 
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Oh on schools your near New Hartford which I believe I heard recently was the top school in NYS.
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Old 12-01-2012, 09:34 AM
 
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Fayetteville is a very nice town if you can afford it.

The drive from Turning Screw is not a short one though. Two possible ways, the Thruway or SR-5 with the Thruway being closest to TS. Figger 20 miles and 45 minutes minimum under ideal conditions. Snow could add an hour easily but the Thruway is almost always open. RT 5 is shorter but much slower and loaded with speed traps. Speed limit changes at least 15 times on that 20 miles. Snow removal on 5 isn't too bad but expect the trip to take a couple hours at least afew times a Winter.
Not at all true. Turning Stone is a half-hour drive from Fayetteville and the vast majority of it is at 55mph. Route 5 is actually pretty well taken care of... my husband commuted from the Village of Manlius to Utica on it every day, a few winters ago. The drive took 50 minutes. Blizzard conditions brought that to about an hour and 15 minutes, which occurred several times. Turning Stone is just over halfway between Fayetteville/Manlius and Utica.

I would not recommend Fayetteville for that employment situation because Canastota or Sherrill would be the better choice, as costs go. The cost of housing is substantially lower for that square footage - and you'd likely find a stunning Victorian for it, too - and you'd be a skip from Turning Stone. 10-15 minutes away. I asked about desired lifestyle though because you'd want to be around Fayetteville if you plan to go to Syracuse frequently... better stores and closer to events.

For the OP- Turning Stone is essentially a tall office building with an office park around it... plopped in a field, just off the Thruway. It's rural, to say the least.
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Old 12-01-2012, 10:59 AM
 
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Using legal speeds the Fayetteville village sign is 19 miles from my house and 45 minutes is my best ever time. Thats Eastside, to get to Red Robin or whatever is an hour. Out of that 19 miles maybe 5 are at 55MPH with 30 MPH be most of it, also some 35, some 45, some 50....................Only way to travel that road with ease is with a GPS unit that keeps track of the speed limit because it changes every mile or so and the road is lined with cops. Non-issue for me as I never, ever speed in NY. Also important to update the maps often as the limits have been changing lately, always down. Also some areas are one limit headed East and a different headed West so never assume what you saw this morning will be the same on the way home.

TS is about 5 minutes farther. Taking the Thruway adds miles but time is a wash and you don't get stuck behind school buses.

Utica is 45 minutes the otherway. For me, again at legal speeds, Fayetteville to Utica would take 1½ hours. 2 hours if its morning with school buses, maybe 1¼ on the weekend.

Maybe the OP has a lead foot. And likes long drives. Hard to say. I'm an old country boy and am used to walking across the door yard to the barn so I hate any commute. I live 1.4 miles from work now and it takes about 15 minutes which drives me crazy. Some of the boys come in from N Syracuse and Clay and think nothing of it. We all have are own likes and dislikes.

I was at the TS recently and I was counting the floors. Depending on what they consider a "floor" I think it may actually be the tallest building between Albany and Rochester.

Not sure how good a choice Canastota is for schools. I believe Oneida came out ahead in the recent rankings. Sherrill is a nice town but VERY expensive, prolly as bad as Fayetteville. VVS is a good school though.
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Old 12-01-2012, 11:27 AM
 
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<sigh> I'm not sure why you remain in misery if you detest it so much... but there you stay.

Obviously, you're aware that there are buildings in Syracuse that are taller than the casino. Not much and not many BUT - there are. Our city is an old one. We spread out because we can and there's no need for skyscrapers that block the view. If they are built, fine. The city isn't in need of them. They'd just be tall buildings.

I can get to the DMV in Wampsville in 17 minutes, from the Village of Manlius. It's so near and without-lines that I rarely go to the DMVs in my own county. I never speed in villages (on the way are Chittenango, at 30mph, for about 1.5 miles and Canastota, where it's 40mph for about 1/3 mile, then 50mph through to Oneida. For about a mile, it's around 40.) You're not going to get pulled over on country roads like Rt. 5 unless you're going 10+ over the limit or acting like a jerk on the road.
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Old 12-01-2012, 11:46 AM
 
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Like or dislike has nothing to do with any thing. Your unrealistic homer math is the problem.

The drive in question is one I have made many times (dozens, hundreds??). The OP may not even mind long drives on bad roads, thats not for us to say. They may drive two hours now and think they are getting a deal.

Turning Stone to Fayetteville on 5 brings them within 50 feet of my house. Thats 19 miles plus about 3 to TS so about 22. Prolly 15 of that is 30MPH. 30MPH is a mile every 2 minutes. Thats also 10 stop lights just between TS and Stota' so about 15-20 total depending on exactly where they are headed

If you can go 30MPH and hit 15 red lights and cover 22 miles in a half hour bless your little heart.

But if we assume the OP is a mere mortal that trip is gonna take 45 minutes at best and most days more and some days ALOT more. I'd plan on an hour.

The Thruway is right there so thats how I'd go. Even with the added miles the reduced traffic, lack of lights and higher speeds should make 45 minutes doable on a daily basis.

New Hartford is also about 45 minutes but alotta four lane road that way so traffic moves better and buses are a non-issue so 30-45 minutes is easy peasy.
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Old 12-01-2012, 01:06 PM
 
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<blink> I did say 15 minutes, didn't I? lol

But again- no.where NEAR an hour, to get to Turning Stone from Fayetteville.
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Old 12-01-2012, 02:39 PM
 
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I'll put the driving this way, it took me 30 minutes from Jowonio on E. Genesee Street to Oneida taking Route 5 during the Spring.

As for the OP, Fayetteville is a possibility. New Hartford, a Utica suburb and the Vernon-Verona-Sherrill, an area/school district just inside of the Utica-Rome metro could work too. Actually, Turning Stone is within that district. East Syracuse is another solid area that may work, as could Chittenango or maybe even Cicero, if you can find something near Route 481(then hop on the Thruway to Turning Stone). Whitesboro SD(including Marcy, most of Yorkville, Deerfield, etc.), another mostly suburban area near Utica may work as well. Cazenovia and maybe Jamesville-DeWitt too.

Here is some more info.: Pittsford, Fayetteville-Manlius lead Upstate school rankings - Business First

2011 Upstate school district rankings - Business First (it is roughly the same for 2012)

2012 Upstate school district rankings - Business First

2012 Syracuse Area school district rankings - Business First

2012 Utica-Rome Area school district rankings - Business First

RealtyUSA - Property - Property-List


syracuse apts/housing for rent classifieds - craigslist

utica all housing classifieds - craigslist
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