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Old 07-04-2017, 03:06 PM
 
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Thanks for the post.

Can't wait to move back in the next 1-5 years. That is the final destination for me. A great city like Syracuse with a good cost of living, low crime, four seasons, big time university, and great restaurants...especially the Italian food.
There is plenty of this in clay and in the Northern suburbs in general. if you just go down Main Street/Brewerton Road(aka Route 11) in the village of North Syracuse, you have several Italian restaurants just along the road/street in or barely outside of the village(Basil Leaf, Utica Pizza Company, Nestico's, Twin Trees III, Grotto, Gino and Joe's Pizza, Sorrento's, Gino's Original Cheese Steaks, Pies Guys, Toss 'n' Fire Wood-Fired Pizza, etc.). There's also Vince's Gourmet Imports and Mario's Bakery in that area as well.


Then, along Route 57 in the Liverpool SD portion of Clay, you have Canale's(original is in Oswego), Avicolli's, Nick and Angelo's, Antonio's Liverpool Pizzeria, Twin Trees 57 and Cam's Pizzeria near Route 31. Santangelo's is a popular Italian restaurant in the Liverpool area(in the town of Salina though) nearby, with a few places in the village of Liverpool as well.


You also can go into the Northside of the city where there are several more Italian restaurants/spots as well in Little Italy(Attilio's, Asti, Francesca's, Biscotti Bakery, etc.) or Angotti's, Dominick's, Casa Di Copani, Gianni's Bronx Style Pizza(I don't think it is Italian owned, but is good), Pappy's Ice Cream and Tony's(owned by the Albanese family) on Burnet Avenue. There's also Peppino's, NY Roast/Little Mac's Pizzeria and Change of Pace Sport's Bar(I believe owned by Jason Grilli's dad) on Grant Boulevard.


In Lyncourt, a CDP in the town of Salina and a community with one of the highest Italian percentages in the country, you have Lyncourt Bakery and the Italian American Athletic Club. Nearby Eastwood in the NE corner of the city, has an Original Italian Pizza(a local chain) and a few other places on James Street.


Solvay, a blue collar, working/middle class suburb just west of Syracuse, also has a few places and it is home to the Tyrol Club, which is a region of Italy(and Germany) where many of the Italians in that community come from. It also has one of the highest Italian percentages for a municipality/community in the country.


So, you have plenty to chose from in the immediate area and there are others that I left out.
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Old 07-05-2017, 08:09 AM
 
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There is plenty of this in clay and in the Northern suburbs in general. if you just go down Main Street/Brewerton Road(aka Route 11) in the village of North Syracuse, you have several Italian restaurants just along the road/street in or barely outside of the village(Basil Leaf, Utica Pizza Company, Nestico's, Twin Trees III, Grotto, Gino and Joe's Pizza, Sorrento's, Gino's Original Cheese Steaks, Pies Guys, Toss 'n' Fire Wood-Fired Pizza, etc.). There's also Vince's Gourmet Imports and Mario's Bakery in that area as well.


Then, along Route 57 in the Liverpool SD portion of Clay, you have Canale's(original is in Oswego), Avicolli's, Nick and Angelo's, Antonio's Liverpool Pizzeria, Twin Trees 57 and Cam's Pizzeria near Route 31. Santangelo's is a popular Italian restaurant in the Liverpool area(in the town of Salina though) nearby, with a few places in the village of Liverpool as well.


You also can go into the Northside of the city where there are several more Italian restaurants/spots as well in Little Italy(Attilio's, Asti, Francesca's, Biscotti Bakery, etc.) or Angotti's, Dominick's, Casa Di Copani, Gianni's Bronx Style Pizza(I don't think it is Italian owned, but is good), Pappy's Ice Cream and Tony's(owned by the Albanese family) on Burnet Avenue. There's also Peppino's, NY Roast/Little Mac's Pizzeria and Change of Pace Sport's Bar(I believe owned by Jason Grilli's dad) on Grant Boulevard.


In Lyncourt, a CDP in the town of Salina and a community with one of the highest Italian percentages in the country, you have Lyncourt Bakery and the Italian American Athletic Club. Nearby Eastwood in the NE corner of the city, has an Original Italian Pizza(a local chain) and a few other places on James Street.


Solvay, a blue collar, working/middle class suburb just west of Syracuse, also has a few places and it is home to the Tyrol Club, which is a region of Italy(and Germany) where many of the Italians in that community come from. It also has one of the highest Italian percentages for a municipality/community in the country.


So, you have plenty to chose from in the immediate area and there are others that I left out.
I know this thread is about Clay, but I just wanted to show a side of Solvay that isn't usually thought of and it is the Piercefield area in the southern portion of the village(was mentioned in the Hidden Gems thread). Here are some street views of that area: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0528...7i13312!8i6656


https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0525...6!9m2!1b1!2i40


https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0518...6!9m2!1b1!2i40


https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0539...6!9m2!1b1!2i40


https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0514...6!9m2!1b1!2i40


This little area south of West Genesee Street is also in the village: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0458...6!9m2!1b1!2i40


https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0457...6!9m2!1b1!2i40


Another part of the village in its western end: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0568...6!9m2!1b1!2i40


https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0585...6!9m2!1b1!2i40


So, in spite of its reputation of being blue collar, there are some nice, solid parts of the village as well.


In terms of Lyncourt, there are some nice, solid streets south of Court Street/west of Teall Avenue like this one: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0826...7i13312!8i6656


Or here: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0816...7i13312!8i6656


Also, Lyncourt, which has its own K-8th grade school district, has its students attend Solvay High for public school or some may send their children to a Catholic school like Bishop Grimes Jr./Sr. High in the nearby East Syracuse area. Lyncourt School District
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Old 07-05-2017, 03:22 PM
 
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I know this thread is about Clay, but I just wanted to show a side of Solvay that isn't usually thought of and it is the Piercefield area in the southern portion of the village(was mentioned in the Hidden Gems thread). Here are some street views of that area: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0528...7i13312!8i6656


https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0525...6!9m2!1b1!2i40


https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0518...6!9m2!1b1!2i40


https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0539...6!9m2!1b1!2i40


https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0514...6!9m2!1b1!2i40


This little area south of West Genesee Street is also in the village: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0458...6!9m2!1b1!2i40


https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0457...6!9m2!1b1!2i40


Another part of the village in its western end: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0568...6!9m2!1b1!2i40


https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0585...6!9m2!1b1!2i40


So, in spite of its reputation of being blue collar, there are some nice, solid parts of the village as well.


In terms of Lyncourt, there are some nice, solid streets south of Court Street/west of Teall Avenue like this one: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0826...7i13312!8i6656


Or here: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0816...7i13312!8i6656


Also, Lyncourt, which has its own K-8th grade school district, has its students attend Solvay High for public school or some may send their children to a Catholic school like Bishop Grimes Jr./Sr. High in the nearby East Syracuse area. Lyncourt School District
Just to add to this and in relation to another thread started by the OP, besides the Sedgwick area, where about 28% of the residents are of Italian descent: Census Tract 000900 in Onondaga County, New York
Census Tract 000900 in Onondaga County, New York Population and Races


These adjacent/nearby census tracts within the city of Syracuse have Italian percentages in the 30-35% range: Census Tract 000400 in Onondaga County, New York
Census Tract 000400 in Onondaga County, New York Population and Races
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0764...7i13312!8i6656 (eastern portion of the Court-Woodlawn neighborhood: Court-Woodlawn Task Force: Click on Map of our Court-Woodlawn area


Census Tract 001702 in Onondaga County, New York
Census Tract 001702 in Onondaga County, New York Population and Races
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0645...7i13312!8i6656 (Shotwell Park area in the western portion of Eastwood: City of Syracuse -> TNT Tomorrow's Neighborhoods Today

There are 2 other census tracts in between James Street and Burnet Avenue in Eastwood that are in the 24-27% Italian range as well. Census Tract 001800 in Onondaga County, New York Population and Races


Census Tract 001900 in Onondaga County, New York Population and Races


To bring it back to Clay, here are some newer developments in the town: The Farmstead - New Home Community in Clay, New York - Cornerstone Homes NY


Riverwalk - New Home Community in Brewerton, New York - Cornerstone Homes NY


Wildflower (Cicero North Syracuse School District) - New Homes in Clay, NY - Eldan Homes


Morgan Meadows (Liverpool School District) - New Homes in Liverpool, NY - Eldan Homes


New Homes for sale at Orange Commons in Clay, NY
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Old 07-05-2017, 10:11 PM
 
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Thank you for all the links and information !

After hours and hours of research, I believe Clay, NY has the best value in housing in the USA.
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Old 07-06-2017, 07:35 AM
 
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^ I don't necessarily know about that(or even completely about some of the other claims), but Clay does have a good range of home prices.
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Old 07-06-2017, 05:19 PM
 
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^ I don't necessarily know about that(or even completely about some of the other claims), but Clay does have a good range of home prices.
The value in Clay, NY is tremendous.

The snow is what brings the value down? The jobs?

I have researched almost every housing market in the USA,and Clay has the best value, when you consider the low, low, low crime, and low population density.
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Old 07-06-2017, 08:32 PM
 
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The value in Clay, NY is tremendous.

The snow is what brings the value down? The jobs?

I have researched almost every housing market in the USA,and Clay has the best value, when you consider the low, low, low crime, and low population density.
I don't think it is the snow. Perhaps jobs, but as mentioned, there is a range of housing prices in the town.
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Old 07-07-2017, 08:51 AM
 
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Thank you for all the links and information !

After hours and hours of research, I believe Clay, NY has the best value in housing in the USA.
Its a good value; I think so too. Indianapolis is probably the best value in the nation, honestly. Plenty of homes under $100k and taxes on many under $1k per year, it doesn't get much cheaper than that in the US. But I think Central NY is better located. Indy, on the other hand, probably has a better economy.

It all depends if you want to live somewhere inland, flat, and perhaps culturally different from the northeast.
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Old 07-07-2017, 09:23 AM
 
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Its a good value; I think so too. Indianapolis is probably the best value in the nation, honestly. Plenty of homes under $100k and taxes on many under $1k per year, it doesn't get much cheaper than that in the US. But I think Central NY is better located. Indy, on the other hand, probably has a better economy.

It all depends if you want to live somewhere inland, flat, and perhaps culturally different from the northeast.
Yes, Indy can be quite affordable in this regard. What is interesting is when looking at the NAHB/Wells Fargo Housing Opportunity Index, the Syracuse area does pretty well, according to its most recent data: https://www.nahb.org/~/media/Sites/N...by-rank-2017q1

It uses median family income in relation to median home price for an area. It also takes property taxes and insurance(which gets overlooked) into account, according to its criteria. https://www.nahb.org/en/research/hou...ity-index.aspx (view Methodology)

So, while some of these posts do seem to come off as a bit much, for lack of a better explanation, there is some sound methodology behind the housing value aspect in the area.


In terms of Clay, according to 2011-2015 American Fact Finder information from the US Census, the median household income is $64,717 and the median family income is $75,589. You can view more here: https://factfinder.census.gov/faces/...ty_facts.xhtml

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Old 07-07-2017, 04:47 PM
 
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I don't think it is the snow. Perhaps jobs, but as mentioned, there is a range of housing prices in the town.
In terms of the bolded word, here are a few companies in the town: https://careers.raymourflanigan.com/ (its HQ's are in the town)

https://www.cargill.com/

Eagle Comtronics -- Contact Information

https://www.riteaid.com/shop/info/cu...ort/contact-us (Customer Support Center)

https://www.nationalgridus.com/Our-Company/ (has a facility in the town)

These companies are either just within the town or are very close: Tactair Fluid Controls

https://www.srcinc.com/

Hydraulic Hoses, Industrial Hoses, Fire Hoses, Water Hoses, Sanitary Hoses, Pressure washer Hoses - Hose, Fittings and Couplings from JGB Enterprises, Inc.

IMS Direct

Syracuse Plastics | Liverpool, NY

https://www.packagingcorp.com/

There are others as well.

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