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Old 08-27-2010, 10:07 AM
 
Location: DeWitt, NY
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The trolleys I remember didn't run on tracks, they were fitted with wheels. I remember the fare being a dime... but it didn't go far. At the time, it cost 45 cents to ride Centro. lol
I know there were tracks in the older system. There was a later attempt at recreating that - trolley buses, basically - I'm wanting to say under Lee Alexander as mayor.
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Old 08-27-2010, 12:55 PM
 
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I know there were tracks in the older system. There was a later attempt at recreating that - trolley buses, basically - I'm wanting to say under Lee Alexander as mayor.
That would be nice, as you can see where the tracks were located on some of the city streets and around the University area. I wonder if there is a trolley map available somewhere?

I know you can see parts of tracks on East Genesee Street, College Place on the SU campus, by the Warehouse where the Bus lane is located, by WAER and a few other places too.
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Old 08-27-2010, 05:13 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Not passed, just enforcing an old and long ago forgotten piece of the sales tax law.

(A topped bagel was already taxed, like anything else when you eat out. To be honest, I would've expected to pay tax on that sort of thing before, just by virtue of buying such from a restaurant and not a grocery store...) The sales tax laws are full of weird setups like this.
Thanks for the clarification.
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Old 08-27-2010, 09:16 PM
 
Location: Northeast Raleigh, NC
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Also, totally off topic, did I hear correctly that NYS passsed an 8% sales surtax on sliced bagels? I heard it on Fox, CNN and MSNBC (see below).

Bagels With a Slice of Tax | NBC New York

How can Syracuse (or any upstate city) compete with this type of anti-business stupidity. Here is a thought, cut spending, cut regulations (reasonably) and cut taxes!!!
It's not a new tax by any means - just an idiotic decision to start enforcing and trying to retroactively collect money from a tax that was already in place. The sol called "hot dog tax" was passed in the late 70's may be early 80's - and forced sales tax to be collected on "prepared foods". Use to be that you could buy a hotdog, sandwich etc. and it was not taxed just as food in a grocery store is not taxed. But ANY food that is "prepared" and intended for immediate consumption is taxable (back in the day, services were not taxed either, but I digress).

Apparently, some poo-bah politician or tax collectors decided that slicing bagels constitutes "preparation" and now they want their slice of the money.
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Old 08-29-2010, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Florida
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It's not a new tax by any means - just an idiotic decision to start enforcing and trying to retroactively collect money from a tax that was already in place. The sol called "hot dog tax" was passed in the late 70's may be early 80's - and forced sales tax to be collected on "prepared foods". Use to be that you could buy a hotdog, sandwich etc. and it was not taxed just as food in a grocery store is not taxed. But ANY food that is "prepared" and intended for immediate consumption is taxable (back in the day, services were not taxed either, but I digress).

Apparently, some poo-bah politician or tax collectors decided that slicing bagels constitutes "preparation" and now they want their slice of the money.
Thanks phaelon56, interesting.
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Old 08-29-2010, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Rejecting casinos, Onondagas invest in an experiment: futuristic greenhouses | syracuse.com

Interesting concept if it can work, what does everyone think? I can say that it would fit nicely within Syracuse's transition from a heavy manufacturing to a green-based economy and focus on environmental technology. One of the conerns is energy costs to maintain artificial sunlight and constant year round temperatures. I am not sure if a combination of solar and/or wind power would be enough to energize the facility, but it is something to investigate. I have to give credit to the Onondagas for their creativity and ambitious vision. The Onondagas could have easily followed the lead of the Oneidas and built a casino on their land.
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Old 08-31-2010, 08:25 AM
 
Location: Northeast Raleigh, NC
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I think the greenhouse investment and initiative is a fantastic idea. If the Onondaga nation can lend their name and some investment dollars to this, I think it's a very smart direction for them. It fits with their focus on eco-awareness and their rejection of the casino culture move.
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Old 08-31-2010, 06:02 PM
 
Location: Washington, D.C.
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Does anyone know the status of the Central New York Biotechnology Center? I moved to the neighborhood almost four weeks ago and the site has been empty and quiet. All the steel appears to be up, but there's no sign of activity.

I'd be surprised if there's funding trouble; the center was supposed to have all financing in place before construction began.
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Old 09-01-2010, 04:45 AM
 
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Does anyone know the status of the Central New York Biotechnology Center? I moved to the neighborhood almost four weeks ago and the site has been empty and quiet. All the steel appears to be up, but there's no sign of activity.

I'd be surprised if there's funding trouble; the center was supposed to have all financing in place before construction began.
I've noticed the same thing and I'm not sure what the hold up is.

I did see that the Hotel Skyler construction will start today.
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Old 09-01-2010, 07:55 AM
 
Location: Washington, D.C.
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Yep, there's been quite a bit of activity on the east side of that building over the past couple weeks. That'll be a good boost for the neighborhood, especially if the developer decides demand exists for an adjacent condo tower that has been planned.
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