Looking to Move Out of Syracuse

[ckhthankgod]

Originally Posted by STRAP

All 4 inner city high schools and CBA. We just had 18 homocides last year the year before 25. Charlotte had 56 last year my friend while they are having all time lows we are having all time highs. They have around 700,000 people. We have less than 150,000. You do the Math if we where there size We would have more murders 4 sure. Infact Rochester and Buffalo prob put up those type of Numbers 56 an thats a good year. So why would you think that If we where there size that we would average the same. LOL. LOL. PLEASE. I know that you are looking up stats on the internet. I live in charlotte. An have lived down here off an on since 2004 when I Graduated High school from Nottingham. I tell you Syracuse may not be bad during the winter months but summertime is a war Zone. Furthermore you cannot be black. No offense but people get shot an stabbed everday in the Black community in Syracuse. I know its my Family getting shot and stabbed an doing the shooting and the stabbing. So if you here the same thing or incident for 3 days in a row its because you do not stay in the hood. An you watch the news and the internet 4 all of ya info. Just in the last 72 hours two of my cousins have been shoot and one stabbed so what are you talking about.

Huh? Actually, that's for one year and if you look at the stats, it seems like the crime rates are about the same. Summertime is when all cities get more crime due to more people out and about with school ending for the year. 25 is the high, but that isn't usual for Syracuse. Charlotte usually has more than 56 though and again, the cities are set up differently in way that to compare the two, you would have to add some of the first ring suburbs in with the city of Syracuse to compare, as Charlotte has 10 times more land, but the density is higher in the city of Syracuse. Keep in mind that many bigger cities undereport their crime stats, whereas Syracuse due to it's size is able to give stats that are more accurate. By the way, the South has the highest crime rate, while the Northeast has the lowest.

As for being Black in Syracuse, the same applies in terms of what type of life you live. I know what goes on in the hood and again, Syracuse really isn't that bad. I go through all parts of the city without incident because I'm not trying to hang on the corner or stay out in the streets. I've had family in that type of lifestyle and that's just not me. So, I know what goes on in the streets and in the bigger picture, Syracuse really isn't that bad and you can avoid it, if you want to. Just stay out of the drug game, have healthy relationships and handle your business.

[STRAP]

Originally Posted by lovesMountains

What ARE you talking about??? "Jobs for days"???? Your info is SORELY outdated.

Charlotte has one of the the highest unemployment rates for a city its size around! We are expected to reach 13% by July for pete's sake! And this is all job fields - teachers, nurses, bankers, paralegals, IT folks, administrative assistants - it is VERY hard to get a job in Charlotte right now.

WOW another internet junky. Please come here an find out ya self my friend. There are jobs that pay 15 Dollars an hour A lot of them "LIKE over ten different job cites" an they are hiring even today as I receive your ignorance through this text. lol Im from syracuse NY an its hard to get a family Dollar Job back home. So what are you talking about. An Im still in school not even looking 4 employment an I know this. The only thing SORLEY outdated is ya job searching skills. lol. Get right BUddy

[urbanplanner]

Originally Posted by bellafinzi

LOL, I always get a charge out of that one!

Syracuse averages 205 cloudy days where more than 66% of the day has cloud cover, and most of those days occur from November to March. And not all those days are wall to wall clouds either. Which leaves about 160 days which are sunny or partly cloudy.

I think the main issue is not weather, but built environment. A beautiful city like Montreal is not perceived as a "cloudy, gloomy" city even though it averages more cloudy days than Syracuse. Why? Syracuse's (the city itself) built environment makes people depressed, not the weather. If you visit Montreal and it's overcast, you barely notice it since the city, the culture and built environment distracts you from the weather.

That's why it is my opinion that if you live in a suburb of Syracuse with a beautiful built environment, you will not notice the cloudy weather as much as if you lived in a run-down city neighborhood. Which is exactly why I keep saying that the city needs a total makeover or people will continue to flee it in search of a place less depressing.

bellafinzi - I could not agree more with your post, it is a home run. I (and you) have been saying the same thing for years, it is not the weather, but the environment of ones area. The naysayers continue to blame the weather for the areas decline. It is their own incompetent, narrow, obstructionist, pessimism that stands in the way of the areas decline. If weather were a factor, cities like Montreal, Minneapolis, Columbus, Providence, Portland, Oregon (esp) and others would not attract new comers everday. Though I live in Florida, I would move to one of those cities (or back to NYC) in a heartbeat inspite of the weather. When I lived in NYC, it was cloudy and gloomy for a good period of time during the winter, but I did not really notice it because of the intensity, vitality and can do attitude of that city. The other cities I mentioned also have that positive feel on a smaller scale. I have never met a person who hated Portland, Oregan, except for the cost of living which is a good problem to have. The problem lies with pinheads that run the city of Syracuse and preside over its decline thanks to their own ineptitude. Local leaders should be concerned when talented individuals like legacy0133 wants to leave. As a planner, I cannot blame them consdering the rash of delayed projects that have hit the press over the last couple of months alone. I wish them well!

[STRAP]

Originally Posted by ckhthankgod

Huh? Actually, that's for one year and if you look at the stats, it seems like the crime rates are about the same. Summertime is when all cities get more crime due to more people out and about with school ending for the year. 25 is the high, but that isn't usual for Syracuse. Charlotte usually has more than 56 though and again, the cities are set up differently in way that to compare the two, you would have to add some of the first ring suburbs in with the city of Syracuse to compare, as Charlotte has 10 times more land, but the density is higher in the city of Syracuse. Keep in mind that many bigger cities undereport their crime stats, whereas Syracuse due to it's size is able to give stats that are more accurate. By the way, the South has the highest crime rate, while the Northeast has the lowest.

As for being Black in Syracuse, the same applies in terms of what type of life you live. I know what goes on in the hood and again, Syracuse really isn't that bad. I go through all parts of the city without incident because I'm not trying to hang on the corner or stay out in the streets. I've had family in that type of lifestyle and that's just not me. So, I know what goes on in the streets and in the bigger picture, Syracuse really isn't that bad and you can avoid it, if you want to. Just stay out of the drug game, have healthy relationships and handle your business.

Once again you are not black! thats 4 sure. Secondly in the last 6 years they have hit 4 different gangs in syracuse with Rico LAW. FEDS. OVER a hundred black males locked up. FEDS. Not including ya regular police inforcement locking people up an murders. Crime has gotton worse since then. What im saying is this they dont do this in Rochester nor Buffalo. Why Syracuse? because it is a prodominetly white city, 28% black. so when the FEDS lock up over a hundred black males in about a half a decade something must be totally wrong. An you are not in the hood. You may pass by or get out your car to get some wings an a juice but you dont live there. You dont walk inside of the bulidings on the East side. nor do you walk through the bricks at night or any other black community. 4 me my aunts, uncles, brother all live in what is referred to as the hood. An sometimes when you are not born with that siver spoon in ya mouf life is a lot harder my friend. Ya cant just move to clay or liverpool. Wish I could have, but thats not reality. Reality is poverty Drugs, Guns an Murders, Its different when you watch stuff on the news that I watch through my bedroom window. Ya know.

[ckhthankgod]

Originally Posted by STRAP

Once again you are not black! thats 4 sure. Secondly in the last 6 years they have hit 4 different gangs in syracuse with Rico LAW. FEDS. OVER a hundred black males locked up. FEDS. Not including ya regular police inforcement locking people up an murders. Crime has gotton worse since then. What im saying is this they dont do this in Rochester nor Buffalo. Why Syracuse? because it is a prodominetly white city, 28% black. so when the FEDS lock up over a hundred black males in about a half a decade something must be totally wrong. An you are not in the hood. You may pass by or get out your car to get some wings an a juice but you dont live there. You dont walk inside of the bulidings on the East side. nor do you walk through the bricks at night or any other black community. 4 me my aunts, uncles, brother all live in what is referred to as the hood. An sometimes when you are not born with that siver spoon in ya mouf life is a lot harder my friend. Ya cant just move to clay or liverpool. Wish I could have, but thats not reality. Reality is poverty Drugs, Guns an Murders, Its different when you watch stuff on the news that I watch through my bedroom window. Ya know.

First of all, this post is off. Second, I am Black and there are people that make it out of the hood even in Syracuse. Third, every Black person in the city of Syracuse doesn't live in the hood. Fourth, I have family in neighborhoods all over the city and know about what goes on. With RICO, the issue was with the fact that the "gangs" weren't necessarily so due to really being family and friends, along with the very loose organization of them. Some would say that they weren't that organized.

Again, stop making it seem like everyone in the hood is in that lifestyle, as there are plenty of people that just live their lives by going to school, work, church and spending time with their families. You can avoid that type of life if you want and you yourself would be a testiment to that, if what you say is true.

[ckhthankgod]

Originally Posted by STRAP

WOW another internet junky. Please come here an find out ya self my friend. There are jobs that pay 15 Dollars an hour A lot of them "LIKE over ten different job cites" an they are hiring even today as I receive your ignorance through this text. lol Im from syracuse NY an its hard to get a family Dollar Job back home. So what are you talking about. An Im still in school not even looking 4 employment an I know this. The only thing SORLEY outdated is ya job searching skills. lol. Get right BUddy

Actually that psoter is originally from Charlotte and would know what is going on there. Syracuse has jobs depending on what your education and skills are. Check this website out: Central New York Jobs

[ckhthankgod]

Originally Posted by urbanplanner

bellafinzi - I could not agree more with your post, it is a home run. I (and you) have been saying the same thing for years, it is not the weather, but the environment of ones area. The naysayers continue to blame the weather for the areas decline. It is their own incompetent, narrow, obstructionist, pessimism that stands in the way of the areas decline. If weather were a factor, cities like Montreal, Minneapolis, Columbus, Providence, Portland, Oregon (esp) and others would not attract new comers everday. Though I live in Florida, I would move to one of those cities (or back to NYC) in a heartbeat inspite of the weather. When I lived in NYC, it was cloudy and gloomy for a good period of time during the winter, but I did not really notice it because of the intensity, vitality and can do attitude of that city. The other cities I mentioned also have that positive feel on a smaller scale. I have never met a person who hated Portland, Oregan, except for the cost of living which is a good problem to have. The problem lies with pinheads that run the city of Syracuse and preside over its decline thanks to their own ineptitude. Local leaders should be concerned when talented individuals like legacy0133 wants to leave. As a planner, I cannot blame them consdering the rash of delayed projects that have hit the press over the last couple of months alone. I wish them well!

I agree and what's telling for me is that when outsiders come to the area, they see how much potential the city and area has, but leadership doesn't capitalize off of it. I think the city needs someone to bring in a newer and fresh perspective to growth and a more forward, positive thinking attitude.

[syr83]

STRAP, you must be foolish to think that crime stats on clay and liverpool are accurate. you internet junky! white people do crack all the time in their McMansions. it's the only thing there is to keep us occupied out here. you may pass through our towns on your way to pick up some grub at heids. but you don't walk through the halls of Panera bread in liverpool, nor do you walk through the dark depths of Grenadier Village at 9pm on a school night. this is when and where the suburbs show their true colors. our reality is tough, but we get through it somehow. it's a shame really, but there's not much we can do but try to get on with our lives....and try to live day by day.

[proulxfamily]

Originally Posted by syr83

STRAP, you must be foolish to think that crime stats on clay and liverpool are accurate. you internet junky! white people do crack all the time in their McMansions. it's the only thing there is to keep us occupied out here. you may pass through our towns on your way to pick up some grub at heids. but you don't walk through the halls of Panera bread in liverpool, nor do you walk through the dark depths of Grenadier Village at 9pm on a school night. this is when and where the suburbs show their true colors. our reality is tough, but we get through it somehow. it's a shame really, but there's not much we can do but try to get on with our lives....and try to live day by day.

THANK you. lol - I applaud your satiric lack of capitalization but there is entirely too.much.punctuation! Dumb it down a little. geez.