Syracuse or Ithaca? (Cortland, Oswego, Boston: fit in, hotel, law school)

[ckhthankgod]

Both Ithaca and Syracuse have huge pluses. no need to make fun of Ithaca, as it is a smaller city that still offers a lot.

[schayban88]

Whe the "OP" talks about Syracuse or Ithaca they don't mean they want to live in the city. They can live in suburbs and there are suburbs of Syracuse that are completely country were no body lives near you, but you still have the benefits of living near a big city for the family. So by you "Proloux telling her that Ithaca better for her, it really is not...she can have the same country side in Onondaga county and still have the benefits of a city near by. You just think one sided you don't think outside the box. Life is all about availability, the more availability, the more successful and productive life one can have. Syracuse area provides more availability then Ithaca does.If you don't believe me read some Machiavelli.

[urbanplanner]

Schayban88 - I was going to let this go, but your posts are so inflamatory, that I could not walk away.

You said the following - "I made Florida look bad, yeah you're right, but I hate when people leave Syracuse to live in Florida because they think Florida is so much better and tell everyone how much they love Florida".

My question to you - Where did I say (in my post (s)) that Florida "is so much better" and where did I "tell everyone how much they (I) love Florida".? I never mentioned Florida in either post.

You said the following - "Anyways your location says Florida so why the hell do you care what goes on in New York".

My reply - I have never stopped loving Syracuse and would move back if the opportunity arose. I have also spoken very highly of Syracuse and encouraged its development. I have always felt that it has huge potential, but the City's leadership is poor. I have encouraged many to move to Syracuse and provided links assisting them. Also, there are plenty of people on this forum do not live in Syracuse anymore and contribute to this forum. Many of whom would move back if the opportunity arose.

You said the following - "you are probably old as hell and you are living in Florida thinking it is so much better then New York when it really is a lot worse when you factor in Hurricanes, how much rain Florida gets each day and how bad the state of Florida is".

My reply - Gee, where do I begin on this one? I am relatively young; Florida has not had a hurricane in approximately 2 to 3 years; living in CNY, you should not talk about rain, which I happen to appreciate and enjoy; the State of Florida has its problems, like poor education system; lack of mass transit; and poor economy based on tourism; construction and real estate. I have always stated that Florida should emulate the diversification experienced by Syracuse and other upstate Cities like Ithaca.

You said the following, which is of most concern - "Half the people there are either illegal aliens, on drugs, and are or did commit some type of crime. (not saying everybody but a large majority)"

My reply - Much like your swine flu comment earlier, your generalization speaks for itself
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I want to thank everyone else for their postive comments.

[schayban88]

Haha...all right Urban Planner, I'll give you most of the credit. Except for one thing, the swine flu issue. If a area has high crime, don't you tell people that there is high crime, yeah you do. There is a high percentage of people who have swine flu in Ithaca. How bad can that possibly be, I'm just looking out for the person. It is ignorant if you don't let someone know about a serious problem like that. They can still move there if they want, but I am just informing them of a serious problem.

[havoc315]

Originally Posted by schayban88

Syracuse has more colleges than Ithaca. In Syracuse there is Syracuse University which is huge, SUNY Upstate medical university, SUNY Environmental and Forestry, Onondaga Commmunity College, Lemoyne College, Byran and Stratton, ITT Tech and Empire college.

There is nothing wrong with being proud of your hometown and promoting it. But the fact is, Ithaca is far more of a "college town" than Syracuse. This is not necessarily a good thing, or a bad thing, it's just a fact. In the course of the Academic year, college students make up a far bigger proportion of Ithaca's population, and the population of Syracuse.

And if you're really going to move away from citing just major universities, and citing community colleges and technical schools, as well as breaking out graduate schools into a separate category-- Then may as well put down Ithaca's full list as well:

Cornell University, Ithaca College, Tompkins County Community College, Empire State College (yes, they have an extension in Ithaca), Fingerlakes School of Massage. Cornell itself is comprised of multiple colleges, including the School of Agriculture and Life Science, The School of Hotel Administration, the College of Engineering, the College of Veterinary Medicine, The Cornell Law School -- Just to name of a few of the colleges.

Overall, Syracuse University is similar in size to Cornell, but a bit smaller. Cornell has 20,000 students attending the Ithaca campus, Syracuse University has about 19,000 at the Syracuse Campus. All of the other colleges in both cities are pretty small in comparison. Ithaca College has 6500 students. SUNY ESF is about 2500 students. Leymoyne is also about 2500.

[proulxfamily]

Originally Posted by schayban88

Haha...all right Urban Planner, I'll give you most of the credit. Except for one thing, the swine flu issue. If a area has high crime, don't you tell people that there is high crime, yeah you do. There is a high percentage of people who have swine flu in Ithaca. How bad can that possibly be, I'm just looking out for the person. It is ignorant if you don't let someone know about a serious problem like that. They can still move there if they want, but I am just informing them of a serious problem.

Just FYI- it's "an area", not "a area." "An" is the article used before words that either begin with a vowel or sound like they do. You'll learn that in college eventually, I guess.

[organick]

Schayban its great that you seem to love syracuse so and that you think living by a bigger city is good but maybe everyone does not like that. Maybe some people feel a city of 600,000 is way to big and they dont want to deal with it. Not everyone wants access to all the things a bigger city offers. Also the who swine flu thing is blown out of proportion, the normal flu kills tens of thousands every year

[schayban88]

Originally Posted by havoc315

There is nothing wrong with being proud of your hometown and promoting it. But the fact is, Ithaca is far more of a "college town" than Syracuse. This is not necessarily a good thing, or a bad thing, it's just a fact. In the course of the Academic year, college students make up a far bigger proportion of Ithaca's population, and the population of Syracuse.

And if you're really going to move away from citing just major universities, and citing community colleges and technical schools, as well as breaking out graduate schools into a separate category-- Then may as well put down Ithaca's full list as well:

Cornell University, Ithaca College, Tompkins County Community College, Empire State College (yes, they have an extension in Ithaca), Fingerlakes School of Massage. Cornell itself is comprised of multiple colleges, including the School of Agriculture and Life Science, The School of Hotel Administration, the College of Engineering, the College of Veterinary Medicine, The Cornell Law School -- Just to name of a few of the colleges.

Overall, Syracuse University is similar in size to Cornell, but a bit smaller. Cornell has 20,000 students attending the Ithaca campus, Syracuse University has about 19,000 at the Syracuse Campus. All of the other colleges in both cities are pretty small in comparison. Ithaca College has 6500 students. SUNY ESF is about 2500 students. Leymoyne is also about 2500.

Moderator cut: argumentative Tompkins county community college is in Cortland not Ithaca. Not only that you listed majors of that Cornell has. Let me list all the majors Syracuse University has. Onondaga community college 11,500. Upstate medical university has over 7000 people and I forgot to mention St. Joeseph's hospital has a school too. Definitely more college students in Ithaca and
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[ckhthankgod]

Originally Posted by schayban88

Tompkins county community college is in Cortland not Ithaca. Not only that you listed majors of that Cornell has. Let me list all the majors Syracuse University has. Onondaga community college 11,500. Upstate medical university has over 7000 people and I forgot to mention St. Joeseph's hospital has a school too. Definitely more college students in Ithaca and

Actually, TC3 is in Dryden, which is in the Ithaca metro.

[Syracuser]

Originally Posted by schayban88

Moderator cut: argumentative Tompkins county community college is in Cortland not Ithaca. Not only that you listed majors of that Cornell has. Let me list all the majors Syracuse University has. Onondaga community college 11,500. Upstate medical university has over 7000 people and I forgot to mention St. Joeseph's hospital has a school too. Definitely more college students in Ithaca and
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SUNY Upstate Medical University does not have 7000 people, it's a relatively small school of about ~1300 students, but it employs ~7000 people because Upstate University Hospital and Upstate Golisano Childrens Hospital, are part of the University.

Learn more at - www.upstate.edu & www.knowingchangeseverything.com