Reva (India) Automaker selects CNY.... (New York, Buffalo: fit in, sales, real estate)

[urbanplanner]

for their first auto manufacturing facility. Although it is a manufacturing company, it will fit into Syracuse's (and the State's) transition to a 'green-based" and "knowledge-based" economy.

Crucial deal sets stage for Reva electric car plant in Central New York | News from The Post-Standard -

Based on the article, one of the reasons for selecting New York State was that it (New York State) will receive 54 percent of federal stimulus grant money for research into advanced battery technologies.

It makes sense that CNY was selected since the company will be able to coordinate nicely with the new Center of Excellence in Environmental and Energy Innovations and the CNY Biotechnology Research Center. In addition, local academic and research instituions are dedicated to green-sustainable technologies.

I am very excited by the prospect of this project on the CNY region. The spin-offs (mulitiplier effect) from this facility and coordinated research-development could be enormous for CNY.

I am looking forward to CNY becoming the "green-energy" alternative to "fossil fuel" based Houston. It might be far fetched statement, but CNY needs to think BIG!!! I took the liberty of attaching the company's web-site:

http://www.revaglobal.com/

CONGRATULATIONS CNY!!!

[urbanplanner]

By the way, I check out their web-site. Reva cars are kind of cool looking. I like the two doors, esp. the hatchback. It will be great seeing these coming off the assembly line.

Who knows maybe those cars can become a major export product for the Port of Oswego, they are doing some major upgrades to their facility. PofO is transitioining from a purely bulk facility to a container facility, which will expand opportunities for growth.

Thank you to Senator Schumer!!!

[cardboy2454]

this is good news! good work, about time we had some good news. thanks.

[urbanplanner]

There has been some other good news, like Tessy Plastic plans for expansion; Crucible Steel has a new owner that will continue production; German air conditioner manufacturer Bitzer Scroll recently openned their new plant in Salina; Sensis is expanding; etc.

Also, the Center of Excellence in Environmental and Energy Innovation is about to come on-line and soon the CNY Biotech Research Center next to it in Syracuse.

It seems that things are improving for you guys, much better than here in Florida. Our unemployment rate hit 12 percent. We are primarly based on tourism, construction, real estate, and plastic surgery Surf and sun only go so far.

[I_Love_LI_but]

Originally Posted by urbanplanner

for their first auto manufacturing facility. Although it is a manufacturing company, it will fit into Syracuse's (and the State's) transition to a 'green-based" and "knowledge-based" economy.

Crucial deal sets stage for Reva electric car plant in Central New York | News from The Post-Standard -

Based on the article, one of the reasons for selecting New York State was that it (New York State) will receive 54 percent of federal stimulus grant money for research into advanced battery technologies.

It makes sense that CNY was selected since the company will be able to coordinate nicely with the new Center of Excellence in Environmental and Energy Innovations and the CNY Biotechnology Research Center. In addition, local academic and research instituions are dedicated to green-sustainable technologies.

I am very excited by the prospect of this project on the CNY region. The spin-offs (mulitiplier effect) from this facility and coordinated research-development could be enormous for CNY.

I am looking forward to CNY becoming the "green-energy" alternative to "fossil fuel" based Houston. It might be far fetched statement, but CNY needs to think BIG!!! I took the liberty of attaching the company's web-site:

REVA Electric Car

CONGRATULATIONS CNY!!!

Don't be too excited that India is trying to horn in on the federal stimulus grant money that is meant to create jobs for AMERICANS. They shouldn't even get any of this grant money, but it appears they have found a way to weasel in on it. Probably by paying some lawyers to make up some complex shell corporations that are "American." Indian companies will use the L visas to bring in Indians, not hire Americans UNLESS it is for selling offshoring (which for every 1 American salesman can mean thousands of other Americans whose jobs go to India).

Honestly, if someone tells me one more time, "Well India is bringing jobs to the US because they are opening offices here," I got news for them. Mostly they bring SALES offices and that is where they hire Americans to go out and get more business because they think the businesses will be more comfortable with a well-spoken American. So, for the few sales jobs they bring to the USA, they end up getting thousands of other jobs shipped out to India when their American sales rep makes sales. They also will hire as few Americans as they can for other jobs in their US offices, instead choosing to bring people from their Indian offices in on L visas. Unlike H-1B, there is no limit on L visas and they get them fast. All a foreign company has to do is say, "We need some of our employees from our home office to come and work in our American office" and they can get L visas almost instantly. I have seen it happen in under 2 weeks from L visa application to Indian employee arriving in the US. It is not restricted as to "how important and high level" a job is either. They can and do get L visas for secretaries and file clerks, so why not AUTO PLANT WORKERS?

People in CNY need to WATCH THIS INDIAN COMPANY'S HIRING PRACTICES VERY CLOSELY.

[I_Love_LI_but]

Originally Posted by urbanplanner

Thank you to Senator Schumer!!!

I see Schumer is horning in on Hillary Clinton's "business with" (aka accepting money from) India. Hillary is in bed with many, most notably India's TATA Consulting, a company that only exists to take jobs from America and transfer them to India OR bring in Indians on H visas.

Here is the background on Hillary and TATA:

... this news is older, but it bears repeating, as an example of our two-faced traitor politicians taking care of India rather than their own citizens and trying to pass it off as economic growth and jobs for the U.S.A.

Traitor politician Hillary Clinton brought TATA into Buffalo, NY, on the guise of "creating jobs for NYS." Sure, TATA has a FANTASTIC track record when it comes to creating jobs in the U.S.! They almost exclusively employ Indian nationals on temporary worker visas OR they ship the work offshore to India.

What jobs will be created for NYS? Maybe janitors to clean their offices and restrooms? A guy to come in and water their plants? Maybe a few cheap office admin. jobs? However, scratch that, as I suppose the secretaries will have to speak Hindi, so perhaps they'll bring their office staff in from India too.

The worst part is any idiot can see what TATA is really up to! Trying to steal our technology, that's what! See quotes below:

"The Indian company was drawn to Buffalo by the area's growing concentration of bioinformatics skills, including the supercomputer at UB devoted to bioinformatic research, said M. Vidyasagar, executive vice president of advanced technology."

"The news was that Asia's largest computer consultant has become a deep-pocket partner of the University at Buffalo. Under an agreement signed Monday, Tata Consultancy Services of India will partner with local researchers and help transform their discoveries into money-making products."

"After the signing of the agreement Monday, university and company representatives began talks to identify joint research projects. One of Tata's interests at UB wasn't biotechnology but character recognition, a science that can lead to security technology and new identification techniques. Tata is also looking at UB's digital imaging capabilities and its $13 million Dell supercomputer, which is being harnessed to determine protein structures, a step in the development of new drugs."

"But some in the tech community voiced concern that the state's $100 million-plus bioinformatics investment will wind up boosting the economy in Bombay instead of Buffalo."

Handy, eh? NYS makes a huge investment in the research and equipment; TATA takes the profits from it back home to the Indian economy!

Hillary Clinton is nothing but a money-grubbing traitor and the University of Buffalo and the local politicians have been paid off to turn a blind eye to the obvious.

[schayban88]

Funny how I posted a thread a couple weeks ago saying how we won't get this car and we will get screwed. Reverse psychology usually works.

[RollsRoyce]

Originally Posted by urbanplanner

There has been some other good news, like Tessy Plastic plans for expansion; Crucible Steel has a new owner that will continue production; German air conditioner manufacturer Bitzer Scroll recently openned their new plant in Salina; Sensis is expanding; etc.

Also, the Center of Excellence in Environmental and Energy Innovation is about to come on-line and soon the CNY Biotech Research Center next to it in Syracuse.

It seems that things are improving for you guys, much better than here in Florida. Our unemployment rate hit 12 percent. We are primarly based on tourism, construction, real estate, and plastic surgery Surf and sun only go so far.

With the exception of a few engineering jobs at Bitzer Scroll and Sensis, the other projects including the Tessy Expansion, Crucible, and Reva plant are blue collar low paying jobs that will do nothing to stop the brain drain or entice professionals to move back to Syracuse. It seems local officials are once again putting all of their eggs in one basket: Low paying jobs that don't require a college degree. Based on pure politics, this strategy makes sense as CNY is home to tens of thousands of displaced factory workers that lack transferrable skills. Politicians like Schumer, Maffei, Driscoll and soon-to-be Miner put 100% of their emphasis on currying favor with these voters as they are essential to winning re-election in rust belt regions like Syracuse. Meanwhile, as yokal politicians are pandering to this group, thousands of recent college grads and established professionals are forced to leave Syracuse since there are few moderate to high paying jobs in the marketing, communications, finance, biotechnology, IT, consulting, and life sciences fields. Syracuse is fortunate to have a good base of engineering jobs that has helped retain local talent and even led to a modest inflow of professionals from outside the region.

Instead of just trying to attract manufacturing jobs to placate the union constituency, local leaders should also strive to attract high tech R&D operations, data centers, and fully fund fledgling initiatives like the Center of Excellence and Biotech Center. By investing such a large share of Syracuse's finite economic development resources in dubious projects like Reva, there is a risk that funds from Empire State Development and Onondaga County's allottment of Empire Zone acreage will be prematurely depleted and cause the region to lose out on bigger projects that promise high paying jobs down the line.

To be clear, the intention of this post is not to malign manufacturing workers and unions or underestimate their important contributions to the local and national economy. Syracuse must strive to at least maintain its dwindling manufacturing base and provide opportunities to all classes of workers including some of the recent refugees that have relocated to the area. No region can be successful if just some segments of the population are able to benefit from an economic expansion. I support efforts to retain at least some of Crucible's Geddes operations. My point was that the regional economic development strategy should not skew so heavily toward low skill jobs. Plans to revitalize Syracuse's core and retain young professionals will fail miserably if efforts are not made to attract higher caliber jobs that match the educational credentials and skill-sets of the thousands of graduates that are churned out of local colleges and universities on an annual basis.

[acknight]

Originally Posted by RollsRoyce

With the exception of a few engineering jobs at Bitzer Scroll and Sensis, the other projects including the Tessy Expansion, Crucible, and Reva plant are blue collar low paying jobs that will do nothing to stop the brain drain or entice professionals to move back to Syracuse. It seems local officials are once again putting all of their eggs in one basket: Low paying jobs that don't require a college degree. Based on pure politics, this strategy makes sense as CNY is home to tens of thousands of displaced factory workers that lack transferrable skills. Politicians like Schumer, Maffei, Driscoll and soon-to-be Miner put 100% of their emphasis on currying favor with these voters as they are essential to winning re-election in rust belt regions like Syracuse. Meanwhile, as yokal politicians are pandering to this group, thousands of recent college grads and established professionals are forced to leave Syracuse since there are few moderate to high paying jobs in the marketing, communications, finance, biotechnology, IT, consulting, and life sciences fields. Syracuse is fortunate to have a good base of engineering jobs that has helped retain local talent and even led to a modest inflow of professionals from outside the region.

You certainly need both, especially when you need jobs for those who are already here AND unemployed. You can transition a base economy, but you do need something for those here to do to get them of the social services supports.

[ckhthankgod]

Originally Posted by RollsRoyce

With the exception of a few engineering jobs at Bitzer Scroll and Sensis, the other projects including the Tessy Expansion, Crucible, and Reva plant are blue collar low paying jobs that will do nothing to stop the brain drain or entice professionals to move back to Syracuse. It seems local officials are once again putting all of their eggs in one basket: Low paying jobs that don't require a college degree. Based on pure politics, this strategy makes sense as CNY is home to tens of thousands of displaced factory workers that lack transferrable skills. Politicians like Schumer, Maffei, Driscoll and soon-to-be Miner put 100% of their emphasis on currying favor with these voters as they are essential to winning re-election in rust belt regions like Syracuse. Meanwhile, as yokal politicians are pandering to this group, thousands of recent college grads and established professionals are forced to leave Syracuse since there are few moderate to high paying jobs in the marketing, communications, finance, biotechnology, IT, consulting, and life sciences fields. Syracuse is fortunate to have a good base of engineering jobs that has helped retain local talent and even led to a modest inflow of professionals from outside the region.

Instead of just trying to attract manufacturing jobs to placate the union constituency, local leaders should also strive to attract high tech R&D operations, data centers, and fully fund fledgling initiatives like the Center of Excellence and Biotech Center. By investing such a large share of Syracuse's finite economic development resources in dubious projects like Reva, there is a risk that funds from Empire State Development and Onondaga County's allottment of Empire Zone acreage will be prematurely depleted and cause the region to lose out on bigger projects that promise high paying jobs down the line.

To be clear, the intention of this post is not to malign manufacturing workers and unions or underestimate their important contributions to the local and national economy. Syracuse must strive to at least maintain its dwindling manufacturing base and provide opportunities to all classes of workers including some of the recent refugees that have relocated to the area. No region can be successful if just some segments of the population are able to benefit from an economic expansion. I support efforts to retain at least some of Crucible's Geddes operations. My point was that the regional economic development strategy should not skew so heavily toward low skill jobs. Plans to revitalize Syracuse's core and retain young professionals will fail miserably if efforts are not made to attract higher caliber jobs that match the educational credentials and skill-sets of the thousands of graduates that are churned out of local colleges and universities on an annual basis.

Can't forget the Center of Excellence(which should be opening soon), Syracuse Research Corp., the Biotech Center(which has started construction) and Lockheed Martin, among others.

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