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Old 05-02-2010, 06:29 AM
 
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Hi all,
My boyfriend and I are moving to Syracuse next month as he is starting med school at SUNY Upstate (ages 29 and 31). We found a place we love in Hawley-Green and just wanted to know more about the neighborhood, in terms of relative safety (compared to areas closer to campus, for example). I've seen the Hawley-Green Neighbors website which is really charming and beautiful, but I guess I just want some more objective opinions.

If there is crime, what kind? What is the neighborhood watch all about? Thanks so much!
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Old 05-02-2010, 10:32 AM
 
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Hi all,
My boyfriend and I are moving to Syracuse next month as he is starting med school at SUNY Upstate (ages 29 and 31). We found a place we love in Hawley-Green and just wanted to know more about the neighborhood, in terms of relative safety (compared to areas closer to campus, for example). I've seen the Hawley-Green Neighbors website which is really charming and beautiful, but I guess I just want some more objective opinions.

If there is crime, what kind? What is the neighborhood watch all about? Thanks so much!
It's a neighborhood that has been gentrified somewhat. It has some nice restored areas and some that are still rough around the edges. There is some crime, but I haven't heard of many, if any, violent crimes that have occurred in that area.

You both might also like the Westcott/University area due to being a bit closer to Upstate Medical and there are a couple of nice parks, a nice little business district on Westcott Street, it's close to the Syracuse University campus, there is another nice little business district on Marshall Street by the hospitals and campus and you get some people in the your age range in that area too. Westcott, Syracuse - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Westcott Street Cultural Fair
Westcott
Thornden Park Association - Syracuse NY
UNPA - University Neighborhood Preservation Association
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Old 05-03-2010, 04:05 PM
 
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Thanks very much for this post! We ended up going for the apartment- we had to make a decision pretty quickly due to time pressures and that fact that we are from out of town and only had a few days to look around, but the place is really great, so I'm hopeful it will be a good fit for us. Maybe we'll move over to Wescott for his 2nd year. Thanks again for the info.
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Old 05-04-2010, 07:55 AM
 
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Keep us posted on how the neighborhood treats you; this forum has had other questions about it, but none of us has much first-hand knowledge about Hawley-Green. I'll look forward to learning about it.
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Old 05-04-2010, 09:19 AM
 
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Me too. All I know about it is from the website which doesn't seem to have been updated in quite some time although it is a nice looking site.
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Old 05-04-2010, 01:59 PM
 
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If you are concerned whether Syracuse is a gay affirming, I don't think you have much to worry about. The City is very tolerant and gay friendly.

The neighborhood has gone through a tremendous transformation, with a very diversee population. The neighborhood is located in close proximity to the university hill area, Marshall Street, Armory Square Historic District, Hanover Square Historic District, Franklin Square, the recently completed Center of Excellence; the CNY Biotechnology Research Center under construction; St. Joseph Medical and Heath Center which has gone through numerous expansions, and is undergoing a $250 million dollar expansion. All of this investment will attract highly skilled workers to the neighborhood. The neighborhood itself has some great little shops, see web-site. Downtown Syracsue is in close proximity to the Hawley Green neighborhood where the converstion of historically significant buildings into condos, lofts, and apartments is in full swing.

I agree with ckhthankgod, you may also want to consider the Westcott area near Syracuse University. The university hill area was ranked one of the top ten neighborhoods in the United States. The Westcott area is mentioined in the article, see the slide show located in the attached article.

Greater University Hill¬* ‚€” Syracuse, New York

Other neighorhoods you might want to consdier:
http://www.armorysquareofsyracuse.com/ (downtown)
http://downtownsyracuse.com/static/hanoversquare

Suburban but charming:
http://www.townofmanlius.org/ (expensive)
http://www.skaneateles.com/ (really expensive)

You may also want to reveiw the wikipedia article on Syracuse that provides a nice overview of the region, including some of the neighborhoods mentioned: I know you have seen the Hawley Green web-site, I added it and others for good measure.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syracuse,_New_York
http://www.hawleygreenneighbors.org/
http://lgbt.syr.edu/
http://www.syrglc.org/
http://www.mygayweb.com/bars/city/?CityID=524
Gay-friendly areas near Syracuse or Skaneateles
http://www.rayofhopechurch.com/ (just an FYI, not assuming your christian)
http://www.outinsyracuse.com/
http://www.sageupstate.org/ (FYI only, you and your partner are way too young)
http://www.pflagsyracuse.org/

You may also be interested to know that Syracuse was recently ranked one of the funnest cities to live in, outranking Las Vegas and Orlando.

http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.s...as_orland.html

Good luck and enjoy Syracuse and CNY!

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Old 05-10-2010, 11:21 AM
 
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Thanks for these messages and I will keep you posted- The Westcott area sounds great but we are hopeful that H-G will be a good fit too. I'll be in touch and any other thoughts are still much appreciated!
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Old 05-12-2010, 03:48 PM
 
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Interestingly enough, I just posted a reply on another thread about Hawley Green, so I'll copy-paste it here for you:

"If you're still looking for some first-hand feedback, I've some info for you about Hawley-Green, as I lived there for a year.

It's a beautiful little enclave that is definitely on the upward swing. Just in the year that I lived there, I watched as many of the houses were being restored -- some as rentals, and many as owner-occupants. It has a true neighborhood feel -- it's at a pedestrian scale and all the neighbors say hello as you stroll down the street. I too, work on Salina St, and would walk nearly every day from my HG apartment; it was about a 20 minute walk each way, due to its close proximity to the downtown proper. There's an excellent stock of architecture in the neighborhood, some of it well-kept, and some of it screaming for the love and attention of a restoration-minded owner.

In addition to the neighborhood places listed off in earlier posts, HG is also home to a number of other small businesses: Ra-lin's (appliances & electronics), a hair salon, a camera shop, Gentile's Italian Restaurant (VERY good), and most importantly Dominick's Market. This place covers all of the essentials when you're in a bind -- I can't tell you how many times this place saved a dinner, as I could quickly walk over to grab a specific ingredient that I was lacking. It has a much more broad selection than the average convenience store, and it even has an in-house butcher. There's also a great (albeit currently mostly vacant) little business district along Hawley near Crouse that I hope gets discovered and filled out in the near future -- I could be a perfect eclectic mix of retail serving the neighborhood.

I'll cut myself off there, but will gladly go into further detail about Hawley Green if your interest has been peaked and would like to hear more."

I'm sure you'll love the neighborhood, as I really did. It's a rather rather short walk up the hill to the university/hospitals (that too takes about 20 minutes), and despite a few desolate blocks between HG and the hill, never felt too unsafe for me. The neighborhood itself, although to some outsiders seems to be "rough around the edges," never had any crime of note during the time I lived there, and everyone is typically quite friendly.

Hope all works out well for you!
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Old 05-13-2010, 07:13 AM
 
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Interestingly enough, I just posted a reply on another thread about Hawley Green, so I'll copy-paste it here for you:

"If you're still looking for some first-hand feedback, I've some info for you about Hawley-Green, as I lived there for a year.

It's a beautiful little enclave that is definitely on the upward swing. Just in the year that I lived there, I watched as many of the houses were being restored -- some as rentals, and many as owner-occupants. It has a true neighborhood feel -- it's at a pedestrian scale and all the neighbors say hello as you stroll down the street. I too, work on Salina St, and would walk nearly every day from my HG apartment; it was about a 20 minute walk each way, due to its close proximity to the downtown proper. There's an excellent stock of architecture in the neighborhood, some of it well-kept, and some of it screaming for the love and attention of a restoration-minded owner.

In addition to the neighborhood places listed off in earlier posts, HG is also home to a number of other small businesses: Ra-lin's (appliances & electronics), a hair salon, a camera shop, Gentile's Italian Restaurant (VERY good), and most importantly Dominick's Market. This place covers all of the essentials when you're in a bind -- I can't tell you how many times this place saved a dinner, as I could quickly walk over to grab a specific ingredient that I was lacking. It has a much more broad selection than the average convenience store, and it even has an in-house butcher. There's also a great (albeit currently mostly vacant) little business district along Hawley near Crouse that I hope gets discovered and filled out in the near future -- I could be a perfect eclectic mix of retail serving the neighborhood.

I'll cut myself off there, but will gladly go into further detail about Hawley Green if your interest has been peaked and would like to hear more."

I'm sure you'll love the neighborhood, as I really did. It's a rather rather short walk up the hill to the university/hospitals (that too takes about 20 minutes), and despite a few desolate blocks between HG and the hill, never felt too unsafe for me. The neighborhood itself, although to some outsiders seems to be "rough around the edges," never had any crime of note during the time I lived there, and everyone is typically quite friendly.

Hope all works out well for you!
That sounds about right from what I've heard and from the times I've been in the neighborhood. It still has somewhat of a blue collar feel, but I haven't heard of any serious crime in that area. There's a nice little park in the neighborhood, where you will see a good mix of kids playing basketball or on the playground swings or jungle gym.
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Old 05-14-2010, 12:50 AM
 
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The Wescott Areas and the whole area surrounding this area are nothing but Drug Infested,and rampart with crime.
However dont believe me,just move their and find out for yourself.
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