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Old 06-22-2010, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Lincoln County Road or Armageddon
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I agree with the liberal citizens of Portland-let the Rays build their own $700 million stadium, anywhere they can. If they leave, eh. Personally, I enjoyed the minor league games at Al Lang field more.
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Old 06-22-2010, 03:19 PM
 
Location: Tampa, FL
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I would start attending Florida State League games (Bradenton, Tampa, St Pete) and become a Florida Marlin or Atlanta Braves fan - watching them on HDTV.
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Old 06-22-2010, 10:39 PM
 
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Wow, kind of shocked at all this anti-Rays talk. I don't understand why anyone could be mad at the Rays for wanting a new ball park in a better location. The Trop doesn't really get any rave reviews and the attendance is awful. And I don't understand the statement about the Bucs and Lightning having attendance problems. When those teams play good, the attendance is good. That is not the case for the Rays.

The ideal situation IMO is building a stadium in Downtown Tampa or Westshore where the Rays will atleast get enough attendance and buisness support to be competative like the Bucs and Lightning get. And so St Pete doesn't completly get the shaft, The Rays should spring train there.
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Old 06-23-2010, 12:11 AM
 
Location: Tampa
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They lost me after the bogus name change (but genius marketing ploy) and extreme bandwagon atmosphere for the year that they were good.

Where would they build a stadium in the Westshore area? Let me guess..they'd probably demolish the Carver City/Lincoln Gardens area. Where in Downtown Tampa, too?

I honestly don't care where the stadium is going to get built, as long as they pay for it. I'm sure a penny tax will be levied by the city anyway. Try doing that for public transportation. You can't. Try doing that for anything sports-related and the population supports it all the way.
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Old 06-23-2010, 04:05 AM
 
Location: Tampa, FL
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http://media2.tbo.com/media/i_test/pdf/rays_lease2.pdf

It's a shame that taxpayers will have to continue to pay for the Trop for decades as it goes unoccupied.

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Old 06-23-2010, 04:35 AM
 
Location: Tampa, FL
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MLB Attendance - Major League Baseball Attendance - ESPN

Interesting stats on MLB attendance. The concert series may artificially increase the average. I'm sure the Rays spend a ton to bring in ZZ-Top, Hall and Oates. All the Rays need is about 7-8k a game avg to be near the top 10. Not bad for a tiny market w/ 10% unemployment. The Rays have only two winning seasons in the history of their franchise if I'm not mistaken, another reason for poor turnout?
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Old 06-23-2010, 10:44 AM
 
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They lost me after the bogus name change (but genius marketing ploy) and extreme bandwagon atmosphere for the year that they were good.

Where would they build a stadium in the Westshore area? Let me guess..they'd probably demolish the Carver City/Lincoln Gardens area. Where in Downtown Tampa, too?

I honestly don't care where the stadium is going to get built, as long as they pay for it. I'm sure a penny tax will be levied by the city anyway. Try doing that for public transportation. You can't. Try doing that for anything sports-related and the population supports it all the way.
We will see if your theory about sports having more support from voters than public transportation is correct come October? when the vote on the 1cent sales tax for lightrail comes. Personally, if I has to choose, I would vote for public transportation over a new stadium. That is far more important at this point. As far as where they will they have room to build a new stadium, there is room is both Downtown and westshore without needing to demolish anything important.

If the Rays don't get what they want, we don't have to worry about Stuart Sternberg moving the Rays. He said he would just sell the team. I also agree with oneKC. I don't think any other market could support the Rays better than Tampa Bay anyway.
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Old 06-23-2010, 10:46 AM
 
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http://media2.tbo.com/media/i_test/pdf/rays_lease2.pdf

It's a shame that taxpayers will have to continue to pay for the Trop for decades as it goes unoccupied.
Its a shame the Trop was built in the first place. MLB warned St Pete not to build the stadium until they finished reports on where the best location would be to build it, but they didn't listen.
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Old 06-23-2010, 05:02 PM
 
Location: Myrtle Beach
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MLB Attendance - Major League Baseball Attendance - ESPN

Interesting stats on MLB attendance. The concert series may artificially increase the average. I'm sure the Rays spend a ton to bring in ZZ-Top, Hall and Oates. All the Rays need is about 7-8k a game avg to be near the top 10. Not bad for a tiny market w/ 10% unemployment. The Rays have only two winning seasons in the history of their franchise if I'm not mistaken, another reason for poor turnout?

I am sure that the concert series is helping with attendance, which is why they are doing it. I highly doubt they are paying a 'fortune' for ZZ Top or Hall & Oates. A friend of mine had a company convention and they had ZZ Top perform.... so I bet its only a few grand. I saw some pictures she took.... they look like walking skeletons. lol With that said, I for one will attend a concert series game, depending on who is performing.
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Old 06-23-2010, 07:39 PM
 
Location: N.H Gods Country
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A lot of the concert series games don't seem to fill up until the games almost over. At least thats the way it looks on tv. That says something.
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