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Old 03-10-2011, 07:21 AM
 
Location: South Florida
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Just keep in mind that only a very small portion of the city is walkable. North and South St. Pete are basically rows of 50s-70s homes and neighborhoods that could be Anytown, USA.
Right. I don't want to live immediately in or adjacent to downtown, though. I'm planning to move just a bit north so I'm close enough to bike to downtown, but able to walk to businesses on 4th and 9th. I'm happiest in family-friendly neighborhoods that are within a few miles to the action.

I don't mind a long walk or bike ride, although, in Florida, I'm sure I'll need to change my shirt when I get back home.
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Old 03-10-2011, 07:29 AM
 
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I think it also depends on what each individual considers "walkable." To me, downtown St. Pete is very walkable only if you live in one of the lofts, apartments or condos right in the downtown. You can't be in a house or neighborhood unless it's at the edge of old NE, and even then, to me I would not consider it that walkable.

I used to live in a neighborhood near downtown Sarasota, and that neighborhood was extremely walkable. Everything including grocery, drugstore, entertainment, etc. was within a few easy blocks.

Many neighborhoods can be walkable to some if there are certain elements nearby - where I live now I have restaurants, a tiki bar,doctors offices, music store, a corner store, a bus stop and a many other things within a couple blocks, so I consider that pretty good, it's pretty "walkable" to me. I am sure there are many neighborhoods in Tampa and St. Pete that are the same, just not right "downtown."
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Old 03-10-2011, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Tampa, FL
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I just moved to the SoHo area and must admit I enjoy it here. I haven't had the opportunity to visit downtown SP yet, but every time the thought crosses my mind I always think of the drive across the bridge that I dont want to make. Besides, I have too much fun in SoHo. I never know where the night will take me, which is an added benefit. I will say people are more cookie cutter here, which kind of sucks. I would enjoy more individualization, but at least the sceneray is pleasent on the eyes. Although Ybor is a great scenic area, I was taken back by the bikers, bums, and "weirdos." For instance, I was sitting on a bench minding my own business when this drunk old guy walks up to me and starts going on about how he is the most racist guy here (not to make this that kind of thread). My point is that you wouldn't find that in SoHo. Yes, SoHo has some snobby/flaky people, and I mean more of the women, but I have also met some great people there as well. It goes along with any city.

Lastly and most importantly, living in SoHo is a quick drive to any store you need. Publix, Sweetbay, the airport, International Plaza, Westshore mall. It's all with in a 10-15 minute drive. Heck, i can walk to Sweetbay, Old Hyde Park Village, the restaurants/bars, and run down bayshore. I am pretty sure I will eventually buy a condo here.
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Old 03-10-2011, 10:57 AM
 
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Bingo. St Pete definitely seems to be the most walkable area in Tampa Bay.
St. Pete has a number of blocks downtown that are walkable, where you can access restaurants, bars, shopping and groceries. If you live downtown, it's walkable. If you don't, you'll need some sort of machine to get you there-- be it a bike or a car. But the whole point of "walkability" is getting everything you need on foot, from door to door. You're in a very rare spot if you can actually achieve that in St. Pete, where your commute is numbered in blocks and not miles.

I mentioned this before, but it bears repeating:
My fiance works in Hyde Park and walks to work every day, roughly six blocks. I work from home, so I don't need to commute to work. I live within two blocks of a Greenwise Market (basically an organic-focused Publix) and two blocks from a Sweetbay grocery store. The only time I drive to either location, which is usually once every two weeks, is to stock up on water (I don't have a problem with city water, just the pipes in this old rental).

Within two blocks of my house, there are nine bars, all of which are locally-owned save for World of Beer, which is a Florida-based chain. I'm not a late night bar/club guy, I prefer a good beer at a few of the spots that are low-key for my 'hood.

Within two blocks of my house, again, there are eight independent, non-chain restaurants, including mediterranean, japanese, thai and a mix of new american restaurants. As far as chains/fast food, there's a Chipotle, Pita Pit, Evo's (the company's first storefront and headquarters), NY Pizza, etc


I wouldn't be surprised if my neighborhood is the most walkable in not just the Tampa Bay, but the west coast of Florida. It's a boastful claim, I know, but I'm basing it on immediate access to a range of amenities and entertainment. I spent two years of research to find this area, and feel quite confident that it fully replaces my old 'hood in Lincoln Park, Chicago but without those damn winters.

Last, SoHo is a thin little strip of land that only runs a few miles. Hyde Park is primarily residential. The character of this neighborhood isn't what happens at MacDintons, at Old Hyde Park or otherwise. If someone is looking to experience the area, they'll be let down if the SoHo strip is all they see. When I want to go beyond the walkable area I'm in, I have as much culture to experience from a bikeable distance as an Old NE resident would in St. Pete. I'll grab lunch at Wright's Deli and bike down Bayshore to Ballast Point for a sandwich in the park. I'll stroll down the winding sidestreets through Palma Ceia for dinner at Pane Rustica. I'll pick up the most authentic taco I've ever eaten at a Mexican grocery on MacDill. I'll hit design boutiques and galleries, farmer's markets and wine specialists. It's not just the little destinations I love in this area, it's the in-between. The brick-paved side streets, the towering live oaks, the spanish moss, the faithfully preserved architecture.

I didn't choose South Tampa for the "smokin' hot babes", "super awesome party nightlife redbullandvodka spikemyhair isecretlypreferdudes" nonsense. Ground Zero for that nonsense, however, is a block from my house. But that's not South Tampa to me. It's the pace, the history, the local ownership and the visual beauty. That's the stuff you find a few steps off the Soho Strip in just about every direction but north.
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Old 03-10-2011, 09:45 PM
 
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Please remember not everyone likes the same thing or feels the same way. This board is all about opinions, so the very things one person finds appealing will seem abhorrent to another.

There are a lot of nice family neighborhoods in south Tampa, it is by no means all completely pretentious as some posters would have you believe - I have relatives who have lived there for years, and they are as normal and un-pretentious as you can get. The pretentiousness seems to be centered on Hyde Park/SoHo.

We live in Sarasota now(which we love), but personally enjoy the atmosphere in downtown St. Pete more - we aren't "party people", we like nice restaurants and a beautiful tropical waterfront setting, and the Bohemian atmosphere - we personally enjoy "people-watching" and like seeing all kinds of characters.

The great thing is, there seems to be something for everyone here in the Tampa Bay area.
I like the style/fashion areas. I'd assume from reading here...South Tampa/Hyde Park is most like Miami. Everyone accuses people who are into '"themselves" of having bad attitudes and whatnot - I've encountered the opposite in my life. The slobs/boring people seem to have to worse attitudes. There's just something lame about them so no one cares to comment.

I want something glamorous that's still affordable.
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Old 03-11-2011, 06:50 AM
 
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I like the style/fashion areas. I'd assume from reading here...South Tampa/Hyde Park is most like Miami. Everyone accuses people who are into '"themselves" of having bad attitudes and whatnot - I've encountered the opposite in my life. The slobs/boring people seem to have to worse attitudes. There's just something lame about them so no one cares to comment.

I want something glamorous that's still affordable.
Then definitely south Tampa is for you (Hyde Park/SoHo).
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Old 03-11-2011, 08:51 AM
 
Location: South Florida
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Then definitely south Tampa is for you (Hyde Park/SoHo).
I'd agree. I'm more interested in the area itself, practical walkability/bikeability, and useful amenities nearby. That's why St Pete wins for me.
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Old 03-11-2011, 11:52 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, LA
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What's the best areas of Tampa/St. Pete if you prefer homes with large yards and low crime, yet don't want to drive an hour each way to get to work (downtown Tampa or St. Pete) ?
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Old 03-12-2011, 12:59 AM
 
Location: Tampa
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What's the best areas of Tampa/St. Pete if you prefer homes with large yards and low crime, yet don't want to drive an hour each way to get to work (downtown Tampa or St. Pete) ?
Just because it's a matter of personal preference, what would you consider to be a "large yard?"
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Old 03-12-2011, 01:38 AM
 
Location: New Orleans, LA
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Just because it's a matter of personal preference, what would you consider to be a "large yard?"
Well, larger than the norm in many cities.. which I'd put at 100ft wide and 180ft deep. Larger the better (for me), but that's the minimum I'd want.
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