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Discretely slip a PA mechanic a benjamin, as you ask him what to do in your predicament.
not neccessary if the car is staying here in FL.
Although the state of NY inspections have cameras set up at inspection stations, which is basically any mechanic that is cetified and has a inspection station. They have to scan your registration and then dyno your car.
When i had non-street legal cars in NY (due to emmissions because of highly modified engines) i would go to a mechanic i know, hook them up with some money, and they would pull my car in, close the garage door, scan my registration sticker, and dyno (run the test on) a honda, then print me a sticker tied to my registration. This is highly illeagal and there are cameras set up. This was somewhat common after a power outage because the cameras sometimes dont come back online for a day.
you do not need to have a current inspection on it in Florida. Inspections are location specific. for example, NY requires an inspection. If I drive it out of NY with an expired inspection sticker, i cannot get a ticket for it, as inspection standards vary from place to place, and the statutes covering them change. FL does not have inspections, therefore no FS on inspections. The FL cop cannot write you a ticket for something that is not an enforced law in FL. It would be like a 20 year old American getting a ticket for underaged drinking in a European country that has a drinking age of 18.
When I had NY plates but was in the military, I would never get my inspection updated- matter of fact, if your inspection is expired and you are planning on keeping it here, just peel the sticker off the windsheild. When your plate expires, just put a FL plate on it.
I believe you are wrong about inspections.
If your state requires an inspection and you are stopped (out of state) and the officer notices that your inspection is out of date with your plate, then you will RECEIVE a ticket (and a possible impoundment) of your car since you are operating the vehicle illegally. It doesn't matter where you are caught. The fact you are caught is what matters!
If your state requires an inspection and you are stopped (out of state) and the officer notices that your inspection is out of date with your plate, then you will RECEIVE a ticket (and a possible impoundment) of your car since you are operating the vehicle illegally. It doesn't matter where you are caught. The fact you are caught is what matters!
Don't believe me, check with ANY policeman!
Funny you mention it. I did earlier today, at happy hour with my friend who works for TPD. You are wrong. The cop cannot write you a ticket for a statute not on the books. every ticket you ever receive will have the V&T penal code/statute written on the ticket. You cannot be fined or made to appear in a county court for something that is not illegal in the municipality. I didnt really need to confirm this though, because I know this from personal experience.
Thanks for playing.
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My son is in the Army in SC and he has one of my NY plated cars with the inspection sticker about to expire. Our DMV allows will send him an extension sticker so that when he drives the car back to NY he will not get a ticket in NY. If you never intend on driving this particular car back to PA then don't worry about it. However PA may not allow you to register the car without an updated PA inspection.
My son is in the Army in SC and he has one of my NY plated cars with the inspection sticker about to expire. Our DMV allows will send him an extension sticker so that when he drives the car back to NY he will not get a ticket in NY. If you never intend on driving this particular car back to PA then don't worry about it. However PA may not allow you to register the car without an updated PA inspection.
^^^ This is all true
One year, before I drove home to NY for christmas, I remember getting an extension sticker. When I got back I just pulled off. I have been pulled over before with no inspection in GA and the cop never even mentioned it. I was stationed in GA for 7 years, much of the time with NY plates and no inspection.
Funny you mention it. I did earlier today, at happy hour with my friend who works for TPD. You are wrong. The cop cannot write you a ticket for a statute not on the books. every ticket you ever receive will have the V&T penal code/statute written on the ticket. You cannot be fined or made to appear in a county court for something that is not illegal in the municipality. I didnt really need to confirm this though, because I know this from personal experience.
Technically, you're right -- cops in one state can't enforce another state's motor vehicle laws. But many municipalities direct cops to write tickets for out of state infractions, and in particular expired registations (presumably on the theory that the driver won't know to fight it). And I know a few people who have been ticketed for expired registration in states other than the registering state. They all chose to pay rather than fight because it was cheaper. There was a class action to stop one municipality from doing this not long ago; I think NJ residents sued Philly, but I can't exactly remember, it's been a couple years. Anyway, I don't have any first-hand knowledge of this in FL, but I'd be surprised if it didn't ever happen anywhere down here.
Technically, you're right -- cops in one state can't enforce another state's motor vehicle laws. But many municipalities direct cops to write tickets for out of state infractions, and in particular expired registations (presumably on the theory that the driver won't know to fight it). And I know a few people who have been ticketed for expired registration in states other than the registering state. They all chose to pay rather than fight because it was cheaper. There was a class action to stop one municipality from doing this not long ago; I think NJ residents sued Philly, but I can't exactly remember, it's been a couple years. Anyway, I don't have any first-hand knowledge of this in FL, but I'd be surprised if it didn't ever happen anywhere down here.
There is some confusion on this thread...
We are talking about Inspections We are NOT talking about Registrations
We are talking about Motor Vehicle Inspections, not Motor Vehicle Registrations. Some states require cars to pass safety and emmissions testing. Many people do not even know this exists because it is only common in the North East and California. It is not manditory to have a safety/emmission inspection in most states, therefore not enforced. In EVERY state a car must meet registration requirements, therefore enforced.
Vehicle inspection is a procedure mandated by national or subnational governments in many countries, in which a vehicle is inspected to ensure that it conforms to regulations governing safety, emissions, or both. Inspection can be required at various times, e.g., periodically or on transfer of title to a vehicle. If required periodically, it is often termed periodic motor vehicle inspection; typical intervals are every two years and every year.
In some jurisdictions, proof of inspection is required before a vehicle licence or license plate can be issued or renewed. In others, once a vehicle passes inspection, a decal is attached to the windshield, and police can enforce the inspection law by seeing whether the vehicle displays an up-to-date decal. In the case of a vehicle lacking a windshield (e.g., a trailer or motorcycle), the decal is typically attached to the vehicle body or license plate.
With regard to safety inspection, there is some controversy over whether it is a cost-effective way to improve road-traffic safety.[1]
In the United States, each state government is free to decide whether to require vehicle safety inspection, as well as the specifics of the inspection program. 18 states have a periodic (annual or biannual) safety inspection program, while Maryland requires an inspection prior to registration or transfer of ownership only.[citation needed]
Under the Clean Air Act (1990), states are required to implement vehicle emission inspection programs in metropolitan areas whose air quality does not meet federal standards. The specifics of those programs vary from state to state. Some states, including Florida, Kentucky and Minnesota[4], have discontinued their testing programs in recent years with approval from the federal government.[citation needed]
In most states, such inspections are done at state-operated garages, usually near the local DMV office.[citation needed] Pennsylvania, New York, Texas, North Carolina and Virginia are notable exceptions, instead opting to have privately-owned garages doing inspections with approval from state DOT. In Pennsylvania, some independently-run garages have been caught doing what is commonly known as a "lick-'em-and-stick-'em", which simply has the person pay the inspection fee and has the sticker replaced without actually checking the vehicle. This is illegal in Pennsylvania, which among other penalties could lead to a fine for the garage and a revocation of their inspection privileges.
On August 1, 2010, New Jersey became the 30th state that does not inspect vehicles for safety. They continue to emission-test all vehicles over 5 years old.
States Requiring Inspections
Delaware—annually or biennially, new cars are exempt from inspection for the first five years provided the car remains with the same owner.<LI sizset="24" sizcache="1">District of Columbia—biennially,[2] the requirement for safety inspection for privately-owned cars ended October 1, 2009.[3]
Hawaii—annually, with the following exceptions: Brand new vehicles receive an inspection valid for two years. Emergency vehicles, school vehicles, rental cars, and vehicles used in public transportation must be inspected every six months. Sticker placed on rear bumper to right on license plate.
Louisiana—annually.<LI sizset="26" sizcache="1">Maine—annually; color of sticker changes annually; sticker placed in lower left corner of windshield.[4] <LI sizset="27" sizcache="1">Massachusetts—annually.[5] <LI sizset="28" sizcache="1">Mississippi—annually.[6] <LI sizset="29" sizcache="1">Missouri—biennially, based on the vehicle's model year. Odd-numbered model year renews in odd-numbered year, even-numbered model year renews in even-numbered year.[7] New vehicles not previously titled are exempt from inspection during the vehicle's model year and the year following. Vehicles displaying historical plates are completely exempt from inspection.[8] <LI sizset="32" sizcache="1">New Hampshire—annually, except the first inspection of a new vehicle or upon an ownership transfer is adjusted to expire in the month of the registrant's birthday and is therefore valid for 4 to 15 months.[9]. Sticker placed in top center of windshield behind rear view mirror. <LI sizset="33" sizcache="1">New Jersey—annually for commercial vehicles (including taxis, limosines, jitneys, and buses), effective January 1, 2010. Passenger vehicles are exempt from safety inspections, effective August 1, 2010.[10]
New York—annually. Newly registered vehicles with a current inspection sticker from another state are exempt until the out-of-state sticker expires or for one year after registration in New York, whichever is sooner.
North Carolina—annually.<LI sizset="34" sizcache="1">Pennsylvania [11] -- annually for most vehicles; every six months for all vehicles over 17,000 pounds (7,700 kg) GVW, which includes tractor-trailers, most non-articulated trucks, school vehicles (including school buses and school vans), motor coaches, mass transit buses, ambulances, fire department trucks, etc., and even though they fall below that gross vehicle weight, taxicabs and most vehicles that carry passengers for hire. Limousines are inspected annually, although they carry passengers for hire. Annual inspection (AI# serial numbers, which become BI# when AI# is exhausted at 10 million stickers), emission (IM#), and semi-annual (SI#) inspection stickers are color-coded - each type of sticker has its own distinct color which is changed at random every year (for example, colors for stickers expiring from October 2009-September 2010 are as follows: annual inspection-green, emissions-blue, semiannual inspection-yellow; colors for stickers expiring from October 2010-September 2011 are as follows: annual inspection-purple, emissions-orange, semiannual inspection-red). Stickers are placed on the lower left corner of the windshield. The new issue stickers appear in October in time for the January expiration stickers to be available on their first day of issue, which is November 1 of the previous year, for example, stickers bearing an expiration date of January 2012 will be available starting on November 1, 2010 (new stickers are available 3 calendar months before the current sticker's expiration). The annual color change makes it easier for police to be aware of expired stickers. Vehicles bearing antique vehicle license plates are exempt from inspection, but vehicles bearing classic or collectible license plates are subject to inspection. Trailers in excess of 3,000 pounds (1,400 kg) GVW are also inspected annually as are motorcycles.
Rhode Island—biennially.
Texas—annually.<LI sizset="35" sizcache="1">Utah—biennially for the first eight years, annually thereafter[12].
Vermont—annually.<LI sizset="36" sizcache="1">Virginia[13] -- annually;.[14] Newly registered vehicles with a valid inspection from another state are exempt from inspection until the out-of-state inspection expires. Stickers are yellow and are placed in the lower center part of the windshield.
West Virginia[15] -- annually; color of sticker changes annually; sticker placed in lower left corner of windshield.
Alaska—biennially, depending on age and type of vehicle, required only in some localities.[19]<LI sizset="46" sizcache="1">Arizona—annually, in Phoenix and Tucson metro areas only, depending on age and type of vehicle.[20] <LI sizset="49" sizcache="1">California—biennially for all vehicles made after 1975 which are more than six years old (in most ZIP codes and in most major metropolitan areas including Los Angeles, Sacramento, San Diego, and San Francisco).[21]
Colorado—annually or<LI sizset="55" sizcache="1">Connecticut—biennially.[22] <LI sizset="56" sizcache="1">District of Columbia—biennially.[23] <LI sizset="57" sizcache="1">Delaware—annually or biennially. Older cars registered as antiques are exempt from emissions testing. <LI sizset="58" sizcache="1">Georgia—annually, required in the metropolitan Atlanta area only.[24] Vehicles from the most recent two model years are exempt from inspection. <LI sizset="60" sizcache="1">Idaho—required in Ada County (Boise) only.[25] <LI sizset="63" sizcache="1">Illinois—biennially after the vehicle is four years old. Required only in the Chicago metropolitan area and eastern suburbs of St. Louis, Missouri.[26] <LI sizset="65" sizcache="1">Indiana—biennially, required in Lake County and Porter County (Chicago metropolitan area) only. <LI sizset="68" sizcache="1">Louisiana—annually, only in the Baton Rouge metropolitan area parishes of Ascension, East Baton Rouge, Iberville, Livingtston, and West Baton Rouge. <LI sizset="75" sizcache="1">Maine—annually, required in Cumberland County (Portland) only. <LI sizset="77" sizcache="1">Maryland—biennially, required in 13 (out of 18) counties and the independent city of Baltimore.[27] The most recent two model years of vehicles are exempt from emissions testing.[28] <LI sizset="81" sizcache="1">Massachusetts—annually, as of 2008. Prior to 2008, an emissions inspection was required biennially based on the vehicle's model year (odd-numbered model years were inspected in odd-numbered years, even-numbered model years were inspected in even-numbered years). Also in 2008, the tailpipe test for 1995 model year and older vehicles was discontinued, vehicles without OBD-II systems receive a visual check of exhaust components.[29] <LI sizset="82" sizcache="1">Missouri—biennially, based on the vehicle's model year, required only in St. Louis City, St. Louis County, St. Charles County, Franklin County, and Jefferson County.[30] <LI sizset="88" sizcache="1">Nevada—required only in Clark County (Las Vegas) and Washoe County (Reno). <LI sizset="92" sizcache="1">New Hampshire—annually, except the first inspection of a new vehicle or upon an ownership transfer is adjusted to expire in the month of the registrant's birthday and is therefore valid for 4 to 15 months. Emissions inspection is required only for model year 1996 and newer vehicles.[31] <LI sizset="93" sizcache="1">New Jersey—biennially. Effective January 1, 2010, commercial vehicles (including taxis, limousines, jitneys, and buses) are subject to an annual inspection. Effective August 1, 2010, new non-commercial vehicles are exempt for the first five years. Used non-commercial vehicles are also exempt for the first five model years, as indicated on the New Car Dealer inspection decal. Used non-commercial vehicles originally purchased outside of New Jersey will receive a decal valid for five years from the model year of the vehicle. Effective August 1, 2010, vehicles exempt from inspection include motorcycles, non-commercial diesel vehicles between 8,500 pounds (3,900 kg) and 10,000 pounds (4,500 kg) GVWR or older than model year 1997 and under 10,000 pounds (4,500 kg) GVWR, diesel trucks between 10,000 pounds (4,500 kg) and 18,000 pounds (8,200 kg) GVWR (subject to self-inspection), farm vehicles, collector vehicles, historic vehicles, trailers, and mopeds.[32] <LI sizset="96" sizcache="1">New York—annually. Newly registered vehicles with a current inspection sticker from another state are exempt until the out-of-state sticker expires or for one year after registration in New York, whichever is sooner. Model year 1996 and newer vehicles are subject to an OBD-II emissions inspection, while older cars receive a visual check of exhaust components. Until December 31, 2010, vehicles registered in the five boroughs of New York City, as well as on Long Island, in Westchester County or in Rockland County required a tailpipe smog-test if they are not OBD II equipped (they now receive a visual only check of emissions control devices). All OBD II vehicles in those areas (1996 model year or newer) require only the OBD II test. Any vehicle 26 model years old or more does not require an emissions check of any sort. <LI sizset="101" sizcache="1">North Carolina—annually, required in 48 (out of 100) counties and for model year 1996 or newer vehicles, except brand new cars. Diesel-powered vehicles and cars 35 years old or older are exempt from emissions inspection. Effective November 1, 2008, no inspection decal is issued upon passing.[33] <LI sizset="102" sizcache="1">Ohio—currently required only in the Cleveland metropolitan area (Cuyahoga County, Geauga County, Lake County, Lorain County, Medina County, Portage County, and Summit County). Vehicles up to four years old are exempt. Testing is based on an odd-even year system. If a car was purchased in 2000, it is not required to be tested until 2010, if a car was purchased in 2003, then it will need to be tested in 2009. Franklin County (Columbus) and Hamilton County (Cincinnati) will also require emission testing effective in 2010. Ohio does not charge a fee for emission testing, due to Ohio's tobacco settlement. <LI sizset="114" sizcache="1">Oregon—required only in the Portland and Medford metro areas[34] <LI sizset="117" sizcache="1">Pennsylvania [35] -- annually for most vehicles under 9,000 pounds (4,100 kg) GVW. Required in 25 (out of 67) counties. Diesel-powered vehicles are exempt from emissions inspection.[36]
Rhode Island—biennially.<LI sizset="119" sizcache="1">Tennessee—annually, in conjunction with registration renewal. Required only in Davidson County, Hamilton County, Rutherford County, Sumner County, Williamson County, Wilson County,[37] and the city of Memphis.[38] <LI sizset="128" sizcache="1">Texas—annually, required only in the largest urban areas: Houston, Dallas, Austin, San Antonio, and El Paso. <LI sizset="133" sizcache="1">Utah—in its four most populated counties of Weber, Davis, Salt Lake, and Utah, biennially if less than six years old; annually, if older, but not older than 1967; otherwise, none is required.[39] <LI sizset="138" sizcache="1">Virginia—biennially, in conjunction with registration renewal, required only in urban and suburban jurisdictions in Northern Virginia.[40] Newly registered vehicles with a valid inspection from another state are exempt from inspection until the out-of-state inspection expires. <LI sizset="140" sizcache="1">Washington—required only in urban areas of Clark County, King County, Pierce County, Snohomish County, and Spokane County.
you do not need to have a current inspection on it in Florida. Inspections are location specific. for example, NY requires an inspection. If I drive it out of NY with an expired inspection sticker, i cannot get a ticket for it, as inspection standards vary from place to place, and the statutes covering them change. FL does not have inspections, therefore no FS on inspections. The FL cop cannot write you a ticket for something that is not an enforced law in FL. It would be like a 20 year old American getting a ticket for underaged drinking in a European country that has a drinking age of 18.
When I had NY plates but was in the military, I would never get my inspection updated- matter of fact, if your inspection is expired and you are planning on keeping it here, just peel the sticker off the windsheild. my car was not inspected I could not get it registered. I also recieved a When your plate expires, just put a FL plate on it.
False. I recieved a notice when my registration was up from NYS that if i didnt recieve a an inspection I could not renew my registration. I needed to renew my registration as to I wasnt going to pay outrageous Florida insurance prices as I was under the age of 21. I also recieved a fine of $60.00 from the State of New York due to the inspection being expired for 60 days. I had to request an Inspection Extension.
IN PA You cannot get your car registered without the car inspection. Therefore, if the inspection is expired, your registration is expired also and I think you may get a fine for driving a vehicle that by law requires to be inspected in order to be registered!
I don't get why people have a problem abiding the laws and always try to find some shortcut, that in the end is only going to cost more money to fix!?
If your car is not registered in Florida, and your inspection is expired in PA, then your car is not registered anywhere right now, so if you're driving it, you're driving it without up to date registration & inspection, so a cop in Florida that is an idiot, is not going to give you a ticket, a smart cop in Florida will give you a ticket.
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