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Old 08-20-2012, 05:34 PM
 
Location: tampa bay
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Maybe it's my northern bias but does anyone else doubt Tampa's police being able to handle what might go down during the convention? I know the National Guard will be here too but I'm just not feeling this city has experience with this major of an event!
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Old 08-20-2012, 06:14 PM
 
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I'm confident.

You'd be surprised the amount of training our law enforcement go through for events like this. There is also added presence of Secret Service, FBI, and US Marshals. Just because you don't see the presence, doesn't mean it's not there. I'm pretty sure it will be uneventful; that is outside of the stoopid and wasteful politics!
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Old 08-20-2012, 07:39 PM
 
Location: Not the end of the Earth, but I can see it from here
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Law enforcement are so freaked out about the "anarchists" they expect to show up and destroy our city it's amazing.

If you listen to them you would think that downtown Tampa is going to be a smoking crater by the time it's all over. I suspect this is due to the poor response the police had in St. Paul during the last convention, and how things got out of hand as a result. Go to YouTube and search for videos on the St. Paul convention and you'll see what I mean. That was a result of poor planning on the police department's part, which, when they realized how they had screwed up, overreacted and really got the ball rolling.

I have to believe that it's the main reason why all the buildings downtown are being boarded up and/or fenced in. The place looks like some sort of surreal post-apocalyptic landscape, if you haven't been down there in the last few days.

I really doubt anything of that scale is going to take place, or if it did, it would be dealt with swiftly by the local LEA.

I told the spouse tonight that I wished I had cornered the market on chain link fencing the last couple of weeks. I could have retired on the profits.

RM
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Old 08-20-2012, 07:52 PM
 
Location: Tampa, FL
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Law enforcement are so freaked out about the "anarchists" they expect to show up and destroy our city it's amazing.

If you listen to them you would think that downtown Tampa is going to be a smoking crater by the time it's all over. I suspect this is due to the poor response the police had in St. Paul during the last convention, and how things got out of hand as a result. Go to YouTube and search for videos on the St. Paul convention and you'll see what I mean. That was a result of poor planning on the police department's part, which, when they realized how they had screwed up, overreacted and really got the ball rolling.

I have to believe that it's the main reason why all the buildings downtown are being boarded up and/or fenced in. The place looks like some sort of surreal post-apocalyptic landscape, if you haven't been down there in the last few days.

I really doubt anything of that scale is going to take place, or if it did, it would be dealt with swiftly by the local LEA.

I told the spouse tonight that I wished I had cornered the market on chain link fencing the last couple of weeks. I could have retired on the profits.

RM
It legitimizes their existance. If they do nothing and something bad happens, someone loses their job.

If they do too much and nothing happens, who's gonna question it?

If they do too much and get overrun? They still look like heroes...

Funny isnt it? The amount of money spent on this thing is absurd
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Old 08-20-2012, 08:04 PM
 
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It legitimizes their existance. If they do nothing and something bad happens, someone loses their job.

If they do too much and nothing happens, who's gonna question it?

If they do too much and get overrun? They still look like heroes...

Funny isnt it? The amount of money spent on this thing is absurd
Worse yet is what it's costing the City of Tampa and the inhabitants - and how much of it is NOT being paid for by the RNC. I work for the school district, and they have started fencing our building and put in hurricane film on all the ground floor glass last month. Something tells me the RNC didn't pony up for that.

Also, consider the expense of relocating all of our employees and operations out of our building. I am sure it's substantial, and I very much doubt a penny of it is being reimbursed. If it is, no one is saying.

I am hoping those tropical depressions out in the Atlantic will be rolling right down Kennedy Avenue next week. Nothing damaging, just enough to make things really, really miserable.

<grin>

RM
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Old 08-20-2012, 09:05 PM
 
Location: Tampa, FL
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Worse yet is what it's costing the City of Tampa and the inhabitants - and how much of it is NOT being paid for by the RNC. I work for the school district, and they have started fencing our building and put in hurricane film on all the ground floor glass last month. Something tells me the RNC didn't pony up for that.

Also, consider the expense of relocating all of our employees and operations out of our building. I am sure it's substantial, and I very much doubt a penny of it is being reimbursed. If it is, no one is saying.

I am hoping those tropical depressions out in the Atlantic will be rolling right down Kennedy Avenue next week. Nothing damaging, just enough to make things really, really miserable.

<grin>

RM
I'm hoping for a cat5 storm surge right at the ice palace.

The RNC is not paying for everything, especially all the little toys the tampa police has been buying like a drunk sailor high on heroin for the last 6 months
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Old 08-21-2012, 03:48 AM
 
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I'd say let the RNC have their little get together,let them hire their own security,i dont see why the Florida/Tampa tax payer has to be on the hook for many millions of $$$
Security? Whats the worst that could happen with out it?
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Old 08-21-2012, 06:01 AM
 
Location: Tampa
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police live for this crap, i think unless you are one of the protestors you have no issues.
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Old 08-21-2012, 06:07 AM
 
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The RNC is here because the city had to compete with other cities to draw it here. In order to do that, the city has to have a plan for security, accomodations, etc... in order to make it an attractive location for the event.

The city tries to draw this type of event because it creates revenue for both the city and local businesses, so no, it's not the taxpayers who are paying for it. If it were a net loss for the city, they wouldn't want it here.

I do agree that the event itself is unneeded (as is the DNC). Both are basically cheerleading events and neither will change the mind of a single voter.

If anything is needed it's a convention for undecided voters or voters sick of the divisiveness in this country.
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Old 08-21-2012, 07:47 AM
 
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The RNC is here because the city had to compete with other cities to draw it here. In order to do that, the city has to have a plan for security, accomodations, etc... in order to make it an attractive location for the event.

The city tries to draw this type of event because it creates revenue for both the city and local businesses, so no, it's not the taxpayers who are paying for it. If it were a net loss for the city, they wouldn't want it here.

I do agree that the event itself is unneeded (as is the DNC). Both are basically cheerleading events and neither will change the mind of a single voter.

If anything is needed it's a convention for undecided voters or voters sick of the divisiveness in this country.
What he said ^^^
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