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Old 07-10-2013, 10:43 AM
 
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Also, the OP said they worked on what's considered to be upper middle class homes for 25 years...

Let's see....if the OP worked on one home per day, that would 9,000 upper middle class homes in 25 years. That's really very small, if you take the entire area.
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Old 07-10-2013, 10:51 AM
 
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Despite the doom and gloom of locals, not *ALL* jobs down here pay crap salaries. If you have the education, there are jobs. You just don't hear about them as often because generally, the people who fill those roles don't whine about their pay rates.
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Old 07-10-2013, 11:07 AM
 
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Despite the doom and gloom of locals, not *ALL* jobs down here pay crap salaries. If you have the education, there are jobs.
This is definitely true. Most of the people I know who have some kind of education beyond a high school diploma are doing quite well. I'm in education and have a graduate degree, and I am making a decent salary down here. My husband has a doctorate and is in the medical field, and he is doing well.

No complaints here. We love Florida and our jobs.
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Old 07-10-2013, 11:07 AM
 
Location: says MA on my license but can be found wandering the beaches of RI
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I'm wondering, also, with today's technology, more people are able to telecommute and/or, if they relocate to this area, they are able to keep the same salary they were making in, say, DC, NY, etc....
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Old 07-10-2013, 11:13 AM
 
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I'm wondering, also, with today's technology, more people are able to telecommute and/or, if they relocate to this area, they are able to keep the same salary they were making in, say, DC, NY, etc....
If you move from one of those cities and telecommute, I would think you'd retain your pay grade.
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Old 07-10-2013, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Tampa, Fl (SoHo/Hyde Park)
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the local corporate job market is horrifying, abysmal in any measurable regard. Always has been, always will be. Sure every city has some good paying corp jobs. Most that make decent money around here are entrepenurial or highly experienced in some in demand skillset. Generally, younger college educated corporate type workers will move away for better opportunities. Florida is also a very different state where most of the huge money here is not from full time residents and in many cases very part time residents. Additionally, hedge funds, other investment groups and international players buy very large amounts of residential real estate in florida. Its an entirely different ball game down here.
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Old 07-10-2013, 11:27 AM
 
Location: says MA on my license but can be found wandering the beaches of RI
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If you move from one of those cities and telecommute, I would think you'd retain your pay grade.
that's what I was thinking.

personally speaking, if my company allows it when I move down, and it is a long shot to say the least, I would expect to make the same so I'm guessing that must happen.
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Old 07-10-2013, 11:30 AM
 
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that's what I was thinking.

personally speaking, if my company allows it when I move down, and it is a long shot to say the least, I would expect to make the same so I'm guessing that must happen.
Technically more since you won't have to pay state income tax down here.

At least... I'm also assuming you'll be able to stop paying state income taxes, but I'm not terribly familiar with how that works for people in your particular situation.
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Old 07-10-2013, 11:53 AM
 
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I guess its easy to say most people have been buying more home then they can afford for over 25+ years. I don't see it. Most of these foreclosures have happened since 2006. That doesn't explain all those earlier years. Most of these housing developments are middle and upper middle class. These people were military and corp people transferring here. There was the occasional snow bird, but the vast majority were families with children. These people were working jobs in the area, not sitting at home waiting for their retirement checks. All I'm saying is there are a lot of these subdivisions all over Tampa bay. The vast majority are living a pretty nice life style on those crappy jobs. YES, there are those exceptions, I was looking at the norm. Of course in todays economy things are a little different.
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Old 07-10-2013, 11:59 AM
 
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Alot of folks sold at home and came here to retire,,,a beat up brownstone in Queens was worth 1/4 of a million,,, they come here with that kind of money and get it all with a pool... and I see alot of foreign owners, don't need a to be a citizen to buy property. The military brass retirees were it a few years back... with a VA loan.. piece of cake. There are a few prestine homes in Tampa,,, but I'd say most hit $500K at most.
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