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Old 06-13-2014, 06:38 PM
 
Location: Spring Hill Florida
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BTW - maximum social security disability benefit this year here is 2,642 per month. The US takes care of its citizens as well.

Tthanks to the Affordable Care Act, (Obamacare) you are able to get health insurance, even if you are unemployed, with a premium tax credit to help cover the cost of insurance (and the credit may be higher while income is low due to unemployment itself).
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Old 06-13-2014, 06:41 PM
 
Location: Spring Hill Florida
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Right, unlike here where our tax dollars cover nothing other than fuel wars elsewhere! That's so much better. Only 6% of all taxes are sent to education....You sound like a loving/caring person, so glad I don't know you. I rather pay higher taxes elsewhere than pay taxes here, and have no coverage at all. What does "socialism" have to do with it? People pay, and they get something in return unlike here where people pay insane amounts and get crap or nothing in return!
If you find MY country unsuitable to your needs please do not hesitate to immediately go back to the hell hole you left to come here.
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Old 06-13-2014, 06:43 PM
 
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BTW - maximum social security disability benefit this year here is 2,642 per month. The US takes care of its citizens as well.

Tthanks to the Affordable Care Act, (Obamacare) you are able to get health insurance, even if you are unemployed, with a premium tax credit to help cover the cost of insurance (and the credit may be higher while income is low due to unemployment itself).
We tried to apply, and it came to $500 a month! We don't have that.

Yeah, but you have to put that against COL...$2642 in NYC or Miami won't do much for ya, that's per month...so take out rent/mortgage, utilities, gas, food, plus any medical bills, and you're left with nothing. In our current state of inflation that number is not that big. Especially if it has to cover two people in the event the other doesn't have any benefits.
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Old 06-13-2014, 06:52 PM
 
Location: Tampa, FL
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Right, unlike here where our tax dollars cover nothing other than fuel wars elsewhere!
Not the way I see it. Entitlement is our biggest expenditure, isn't it (taking care of our citizens)?

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Old 06-13-2014, 06:57 PM
 
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Actually, what is weird is this: if I work say for x company, private, how come that company doesn't pay for pensions and it falls back on the Gov?

The other thing is this, half of the pie slice is fraud; it is made of people who can work, and should work, but they chose to milk the system...most likely only 30% or less of that pie piece is for merit.
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Old 06-13-2014, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Spring Hill Florida
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We tried to apply, and it came to $500 a month! We don't have that.

Yeah, but you have to put that against COL...$2642 in NYC or Miami won't do much for ya, that's per month...so take out rent/mortgage, utilities, gas, food, plus any medical bills, and you're left with nothing. In our current state of inflation that number is not that big. Especially if it has to cover two people in the event the other doesn't have any benefits.

Obviously there is substantial income/assets in your household. Then yes, you would pay a premium. Get a divorce and apply by yourself and it would be free. Its a pay based on needs system. The lower your assets and income the lower premium is there. If you have income/assets your premium goes up accordingly.
This is how it was designed to work so that everybody could have insurance coverage from themselves and their family.

NYC is the most expensive city to live in the U.S. so $31,000 would be tough to pull off. But why would any one want to live there anyway? Miami, well, again, who would want to live there when there are so many better places throughout the country?
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Old 06-13-2014, 07:00 PM
 
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"Lovely" to c the education getting 2% now! Yet all companies want all sorts of degrees!!! Hypocrisy runs rampant.

OP stay in Spain...
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Old 06-13-2014, 07:06 PM
 
Location: Spring Hill Florida
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"Lovely" to c the education getting 2% now! Yet all companies want all sorts of degrees!!! Hypocrisy runs rampant.

OP stay in Spain...
2 percent of what? The Federal government allocated 140.9 BILLION DOLLARS to education in fiscal year 2014.

You saying you cant go to college? Why not? Yes, Employers want the best to work for them. That is how they advance in their goals. You can't hire a bunch of high school graduates to run an engineering firm.
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Old 06-13-2014, 07:10 PM
 
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Obviously there is substantial income/assets in your household. Then yes, you would pay a premium. Get a divorce and apply by yourself and it would be free. Its a pay based on needs system. The lower your assets and income the lower premium is there. If you have income/assets your premium goes up accordingly.
This is how it was designed to work so that everybody could have insurance coverage from themselves and their family.

NYC is the most expensive city to live in the U.S. so $31,000 would be tough to pull off. But why would any one want to live there anyway? Miami, well, again, who would want to live there when there are so many better places throughout the country?
There isn't. We're under 35k. No assets, no savings accounts, no IRA and other perks, 14/10 year old cars. My car broke down today completely...so now we share one car...After groceries were usually left with $5. The website directed us to private providers because I am not working. (Not because I don't want to). Can't afford to get divorced, nor do I want to...doesn't that sound ridiculous in a civilized country? Break up a family to get healthcare In a country that usually frowns on abortions? Interesting approach! I never heard of this before... Wow...And that would make me one of those who do milk the system...that's not my personality...
This Obamacrapcare has many flaws, and a lot of people still cannot afford it because not everyone was taken into account, only those who work full time were taken into account, part timers, or 1099ers are not accounted for. Many companies are cutting hours so they don't have to provide healthcare...that is a sad fact.

Ohh, I wouldn't live in NYC if you paid me, it's too noisy...however, I would love to go back to Miami....but I think the amount would adjust to whatever state...like wages...what they get paid in Miami they don't get paid in Colorado etc.
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Old 06-13-2014, 07:15 PM
 
Location: Tampa, FL
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"Lovely" to c the education getting 2% now! Yet all companies want all sorts of degrees!!! Hypocrisy runs rampant.

OP stay in Spain...
That's Federal, Education is a state responsibilty.
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