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Old 07-27-2014, 11:56 AM
 
Location: tampa bay
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Correct. I believe she was involved in the coverup, but the actual killer could have been one on many in the group.....or it could have been an accident.

You can't convict unless there is clear evidence as to who actually killed her.
I don't know Prius that just seems like a wacky conspiracy theory to me...but you are entitled to it..heck my both kids had a teacher that swore we never landed on the moonand he had a Phd...

 
Old 07-27-2014, 12:07 PM
 
Location: USA's #1 MSA 4 Years Running
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I don't know Prius that just seems like a wacky conspiracy theory to me...but you are entitled to it..heck my both kids had a teacher that swore we never landed on the moonand he had a Phd...
Nope. It was the consensus they came to. There simply was no direct evidence that "she" was the one who killed her. I sure wish there was, but there wasn't. That is why the jury came back with the verdict they did. Everybody and their brother/sister would want to convict a mother for doing that to their child, so obviously they could not for a reason.
 
Old 07-27-2014, 12:29 PM
 
Location: tampa bay
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Nope. It was the consensus they came to. There simply was no direct evidence that "she" was the one who killed her. I sure wish there was, but there wasn't. That is why the jury came back with the verdict they did. Everybody and their brother/sister would want to convict a mother for doing that to their child, so obviously they could not for a reason.
There doesn't need to be "direct" evidence to get a conviction...people go to jail everyday based on less evidence then was presented here...high profile cases often subvert justice...and this was a clear example...the defense stuck to the old adage..."if you have the law on your side argue the law...if you have the facts on your side argue the facts...if you don't have either...argue everything else"...and hope the like hell something sticks...and the jury fell for it...hook,line and sinker...
 
Old 07-27-2014, 12:53 PM
 
Location: USA's #1 MSA 4 Years Running
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There doesn't need to be "direct" evidence to get a conviction...people go to jail everyday based on less evidence then was presented here...high profile cases often subvert justice...and this was a clear example...the defense stuck to the old adage..."if you have the law on your side argue the law...if you have the facts on your side argue the facts...if you don't have either...argue everything else"...and hope the like hell something sticks...and the jury fell for it...hook,line and sinker...
We will have to agree to disagree on this one. But the good thing is we had a nice discussion and won't call each other names.....LOL!
 
Old 07-27-2014, 01:06 PM
 
Location: tampa bay
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We will have to agree to disagree on this one. But the good thing is we had a nice discussion and won't call each other names.....LOL!
That's right...we can disagree without being disagreeable...
 
Old 07-27-2014, 01:39 PM
 
Location: Spring Hill Florida
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That isn't their duty...people are convicted everyday on less circumstantial evidence...the jury needs to bring their collective wisdom to deliberations...not speculate whether others were involved...if others were that doesn't mean Casey gets to go free...and again do you think a personality like Casey Anthony would stay silent if anyone else was invoved?...my god she had Baez get up there on her behalf and accuse George of unspeakable actsWhich the defense never proved along with a host of other allegations against her brother...which the defense was allowed to spew in open court without Casey taking the stand under oath to accuse George and Lee...which is Casey's right not to.. but how in all that is holy was the defense allowed to put it out there???
They do not need to speculate. A jury has to go by the evidence presented to them. They are not to bring their personal thoughts and feeling into the picture. They only needed to have the doubt due to lack of clear and convincing evidence. Circumstantial evidence? What was the circumstantial evidence?

As far as the attack on Casey's family the defense was grabbing at any straws that would take the attention off his client or at least to show reason why she was unstable and should get off on reasons or insanity or lack of mental health. It was a road he never had to follow.

Now.... What credible evidence to you have that Casey killed her kid?
 
Old 07-27-2014, 01:48 PM
 
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Now.... What credible evidence to you have that Casey killed her kid?
Based on your position in this thread, you could be shown video of Casey killing the kid and still not be convinced.
 
Old 07-27-2014, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Spring Hill Florida
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There doesn't need to be "direct" evidence to get a conviction...people go to jail everyday based on less evidence then was presented here...high profile cases often subvert justice...and this was a clear example...the defense stuck to the old adage..."if you have the law on your side argue the law...if you have the facts on your side argue the facts...if you don't have either...argue everything else"...and hope the like hell something sticks...and the jury fell for it...hook,line and sinker...
When there is no direct evidence in a criminal trial that leads to a conviction is when you have an appeal.

In the Anthony case, the prosecution's theory was that Casey Anthony used chloroform to suffocate her daughter. Unfortunately for the prosecution the state of decomposition of the kidd body prohibited a definitive determination on the cause of death. The prosecution had no “smoking gun” for the chloroform theory such as a bottle with Casey's fingerprints on it. That could have been strong circumstantial evidence of guilt, but it just didn't exist.

The standard of proof in criminal trials is “beyond a reasonable doubt.” The prosecution must prove that the defendant is guilty of the crime charged to the extent that no reasonable person could have a reasonable doubt that the defendant is guilty.

The burden of proof is on the prosecution. sometimes prosecutors aren't able to convince a jury that the defendant's guilt has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt. Public opinion doesn't matter to the justice system, and where there's reasonable doubt in the jury's collective mind, there simply can be no conviction.
 
Old 07-27-2014, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Spring Hill Florida
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Correct. I believe she was involved in the coverup, but the actual killer could have been one on many in the group.....or it could have been an accident.

You can't convict unless there is clear evidence as to who actually killed her.
Correct. Cant convict with out clear evidence.
 
Old 07-27-2014, 04:56 PM
 
Location: N Atlanta
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They do not need to speculate. A jury has to go by the evidence presented to them. They are not to bring their personal thoughts and feeling into the picture. They only needed to have the doubt due to lack of clear and convincing evidence. Circumstantial evidence? What was the circumstantial evidence?
You want circumstantial evidence and how it ties together... have a read here ...

Trial Notes: Casey Anthony Trial - Evidence: Tying It All Together

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