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Old 01-17-2016, 09:30 AM
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Did any of you guys actually read the statute, I guarantee you that the term "robbery by sudden snatching" never comes up, the defense lawyer knows that would get laughed out of court.
I'd have to agree w/ that. It does sound quite petty IMO.
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Old 01-17-2016, 09:35 AM
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Interesting. Thx. However, it was not a "robbery" by sudden snatching. His intent was to give it back, which he did.....by throwing it at him......no? It seems like more of a "sudden borrowing" with a "sudden messy return of goods".
I never considered that. Your rite. Technically ( I could be wrong) it wasn't "robbery".
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Old 01-17-2016, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Spring Hill Florida
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Did any of you guys actually read the statute, I guarantee you that the term "robbery by sudden snatching" never comes up, the defense lawyer knows that would get laughed out of court.

I brought up "sudden snatching" because that is how Oulson took possession of the popcorn.
I did not say this CRIME would be used in any trial. It is a crime, he committed it.



“Robbery by sudden snatching” means the taking of money or other property from the victim’s person, with intent to permanently or temporarily deprive the victim or the owner of the money or other property, when, in the course of the taking, the victim was or became aware of the taking. In order to satisfy this definition, it is not necessary to show that:
(a) The offender used any amount of force beyond that effort necessary to obtain possession of the money or other property; or
(b) There was any resistance offered by the victim to the offender or that there was injury to the victim’s person.
(2)(a) If, in the course of committing a robbery by sudden snatching, the offender carried a firearm or other deadly weapon, the robbery by sudden snatching is a felony of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.
(b) If, in the course of committing a robbery by sudden snatching, the offender carried no firearm or other deadly weapon, the robbery by sudden snatching is a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.
(3)(a) An act shall be deemed “in the course of committing a robbery by sudden snatching” if the act occurs in an attempt to commit robbery by sudden snatching or in fleeing after the attempt or commission.
(b) An act shall be deemed “in the course of the taking” if the act occurs prior to, contemporaneous with, or subsequent to the taking of the property and if such act and the act of taking constitute a continuous series of acts or events.
History.—s. 1, ch. 99-175.
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Old 01-17-2016, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Spring Hill Florida
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Interesting. Thx. However, it was not a "robbery" by sudden snatching. His intent was to give it back, which he did.....by throwing it at him......no? It seems like more of a "sudden borrowing" with a "sudden messy return of goods".
I dont think we have a law that covers that. However, what did indeed occur was "the taking of money or other property from the victim’s person, with intent to permanently or temporarily deprive the victim or the owner of the money or other property, when, in the course of the taking, the victim was or became aware of the taking.
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Old 01-17-2016, 01:21 PM
 
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True, but I've read how quite a few people describe that he's an azzhole, control freak and sometimes hard to work with.

You gotta admit you've read more than 1 person describe Reeve's character in a negative way. And haven't heard of not one single person describe Oulson in such a way.

I betcha no one never heard Oulson tell his wife to "shut your f***king mouth".
Because he is one. Just looking at how he talked to his wife in public speaks volumes about him

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Oulson reached into the personal space of Reeves, took his popcorn, and threw it back at him - all over a dispute over texting, and at a 70 year old man to boot.

Let's not forget, Oulson was the first to get physical, if he wasn't shot, we'd probably be calling him all sorts of names for abusing the elderly.
Maybe the defense can push Reeves in a wheelchair into the courtroom. Play up the "old man card".

This guy has some build on him for a 70 year old man, and in FL 70 is considered young.

All could have been avoided by simply changing seats in a nearly empty theater with stadium seating.
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Old 01-17-2016, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Spring Hill Florida
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I'd have to agree w/ that. It does sound quite petty IMO.
Its no so petty when its happening to you.
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Old 01-17-2016, 01:40 PM
 
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I dont think we have a law that covers that. However, what did indeed occur was "the taking of money or other property from the victim’s person, with intent to permanently or temporarily deprive the victim or the owner of the money or other property, when, in the course of the taking, the victim was or became aware of the taking.
The technicality may be that he had no intent to deprive the victim (shooter) of the property. The intent was to snatch it and throw it right back at him. Assuming, off course.
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Old 01-17-2016, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Spring Hill Florida
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The technicality may be that he had no intent to deprive the victim (shooter) of the property. The intent was to snatch it and throw it right back at him. Assuming, off course.
By snatching and throwing he deprived the owner from eating his popcorn
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Old 01-17-2016, 04:22 PM
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By snatching and throwing he deprived the owner from eating his popcorn
Wow! Big crime right there. People snatch drinks all the time in way less "threatening" situations...nobody ever got killed over it.
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Old 01-17-2016, 05:32 PM
 
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I brought up "sudden snatching" because that is how Oulson took possession of the popcorn.
I did not say this CRIME would be used in any trial. It is a crime, he committed it.
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Then what's the point? If you can't bring it up on court, then we might as well say he was speeding on his way to the movies, it's irrelevant. The reason is irrelevant because our justice system relies on the interpretation of law that law clearly does not apply to this case.
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