Movie theatre shooting SYG trial (Spring Hill: price, retirement, assault)

[Hawksphins]

Originally Posted by justNancy

Okay, let's say the victim was a jerk. So? Tell me why he should pay for his bad behavior with his life. Even if a car thief is prosecuted and convicted, he doesn't get the Death Penalty. It is beyond my comprehension that people are defending killing someone because he is annoying.

I do not know how Stand Your Ground can possibly apply when Reeves chose to return to the same seat. It wasn't his house or his car and there were plenty of empty seats. This is a macho thing, like "mine is bigger than yours" and has nothing to do with self defense. Nobody seems to care that a little girl is going to grow up without her Daddy because the wrong person sat in back of him at the movies.

The victim was the shooter. Game over.

[Spring Hillian]

Originally Posted by justNancy

Okay, let's say the victim was a jerk. So? Tell me why he should pay for his bad behavior with his life. Even if a car thief is prosecuted and convicted, he doesn't get the Death Penalty. It is beyond my comprehension that people are defending killing someone because he is annoying.

I do not know how Stand Your Ground can possibly apply when Reeves chose to return to the same seat. It wasn't his house or his car and there were plenty of empty seats. This is a macho thing, like "mine is bigger than yours" and has nothing to do with self defense. Nobody seems to care that a little girl is going to grow up without her Daddy because the wrong person sat in back of him at the movies.

How can you discount the fact that Reeves was under physical and verbal attack by an angry young man and Reeves could not know how Oulsen's attack would escalate. Reeves was afraid of further attack and stooped his assailant. Forget everything until the sudden snatching of the popcorn as nothing before that point makes a difference except to show Oulson was playing the tough guy role. If Oulson would have been civil the kid would still have a daddy

[The Villages Guy]

Why not just wait to see what happens in the trial?

It will be interesting to see how the result of this trial affects the interpretation of the law going forward.

[Spring Hillian]

Originally Posted by DUNNDFRNT

Come on, I might not agree with you in everything but by all indications you are fairly smart well read person, if I threw popcorn at you the cops came, they would not arrest me, there would be no way I would be indicted, you could not find a prosecutor that would bring that up that charge, I understand it fits your narrative but you are really grasping at straws. I truly believe this guy is going to walk away from this, I think that the burden of proof in that "fear for my life" defense is low that he can work that. To be fair the guy probably learned his lesson, I don't think he had any malice when he shot him is not really going to solve anything to make him spent his few remaining years in jail.

They may not arrest you for throwinf popcorn but in the eyes of the law there is no difference between a
bag of popcorn or a brick. The laws dont have lists of what can be thrown or a list of weights to determne whether or not a crime was comitted. Fear or harm or injury is all he needs.

[Spring Hillian]

Originally Posted by Irishiis49

It will be interesting to see how it all went down...how was Oulson even aware that Reeves didn't just go to the bathroom but alerted a manager to lodge a complaint? Also is the defense using stand your ground? I hadn't heard that...or maybe just forgot...

From the early mediareports Oulsen asked Reeves
if he reported him. Reeves answered in the affirmative. Then Oulson went nutso.

[jambo101]

Originally Posted by North_Pinellas_Guy

Why not just wait to see what happens in the trial?

It will be interesting to see how the result of this trial affects the interpretation of the law going forward.

To add/
Kinda sets up a precedent whereby if i can make you angry enough in an argument to throw a punch or in this case a bag of popcorn at me i can then declare i was in fear of my life and kill you.
Hmm got any bosses you dont like? how about co-workers,neighbors,family members.?

[Spring Hillian]

Originally Posted by PDF

The other person in this incident is dead. That's more than assault.

Death can happen to you when you attack another person.

[EngGirl]

Originally Posted by jambo101

To add/
Kinda sets up a precedent whereby if i can make you angry enough in an argument to throw a punch or in this case a bag of popcorn at me i can then declare i was in fear of my life and kill you.
Hmm got any bosses you dont like? how about co-workers,neighbors,family members.?

^^^
Exactly!

[Spring Hillian]

Originally Posted by jambo101

To add/
Kinda sets up a precedent whereby if i can make you angry enough in an argument to throw a punch or in this case a bag of popcorn at me i can then declare i was in fear of my life and kill you.
Hmm got any bosses you dont like? how about co-workers,neighbors,family members.?

Fear for your life or fear of injury.

You need to have surrounding circumstances, aggressor committed a felony or two against you.

Nobody has the legal or moral right to attack someone without realizing they couldget killed.

[seain dublin]

Originally Posted by Hawksphins

The victim was the shooter. Game over.

No, it's not "game over".

Regardless of whether he gets off or not he has drained both himself and his poor wife of their retirement savings. You think he's getting free legal counsel.

He is also being sued by the widow.

So it's not game over.