03-06-2008, 08:55 AM
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We try to live in "harmony and friendship" with our
two next door neighbors (conservation area in back) but the fact is that "grass-to-grass", NO fence or hedges allowed property lines are really making it rough !! We recently moved into this house and had it professionally surveyed and marked (with metal wire flag markers) so we know exactly where the next door neighbor's property lines are and where ours stops..... all 125+ feet long of it. We were shocked to find the neighbor on our left side was built on a ZERO property line and that neighbor's roof line is OUR property line and their house wall is 16 inches away from our property line. In fact their Lanai "side" is exactly
on our property line and their screen door actually opens right into our backyard. Believe it or not their termite bait stations are about two feet into our yard as well as several dozen feet of 3 foot wide hedges (against their house and Lanai) but most of all three plus feet of pool equipment of theirs sits on OUR property. We have nicely made them aware of this fact and they have since stopped using that Lanai door nearly as much as usual (you should have seen it during their picnics..... OUR backyard was turned into theirs !!) So they are living in "harmony" with us and all is "happy" on the "left side" !! It's the neighbor on our right side...... we all have St. Augustine grass and I know NOT to "scalp" it below 3 inches when cut, but unfortunately the neighbor on the right has a "cheapy" lawn mower that cuts a max. of 2 inches and he does NOT "respect" where our property line is and cuts 3 FEET OVER, onto our property and "scalps the crap" out of our St. Augustine bringing it almost to roots on bare soil. I have NICELY tried probably 10 times or more explaining to him where OUR property line is, referencing the corner of a big metal electrical box (about 3 ft. x 3 ft.) where the surveyers left a flag (which unfortunately has since been removed), but he still "wanders over onto our side and scalps" !! If it were a clean 3 inch high cut there would be NO problem, but the constant "scalping" of a 2 inch, old, worn mower is making the grass yellow and weeds are coming up in these weakened parts, no matter how much we have our lawn "treated" (fertilized) !! Plus it just looks so ridiculous having our lawn freshly cut at 3 inches then he comes out and cuts at 2 inches !! I told him (nicely) he is cutting his lawn much too low for St. Augustine and he comes back saying it's the highest the mower can go and that is the best he is going to do and that's that !! I asked him to stay OFF our property and he demands to "see the survey markers". The trouble is that they put
HIS water meter (that's Florida for ya') on
OUR property, so he figures this is "his grass". I have tried again about an hour ago, as he was cutting (scalping), showing him the corner of our electrical box is the property line and NOT the water meter and he got really sarcastic and demanded to "see a survey map". The really sad part is that when I cut OUR lawn I also cut his to make it all "look even" (at 3 inches) and I have told him I will cut HIS lawn in front on my side, DON'T worry about it, I will make it all look nice........ he is stubborn and wants to cut all his at 2 inches to make HIS look freshly cut..........
WHAT TO DO ?????????????????
03-06-2008, 09:08 AM
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Why did you buy knowing about the encroachment? You should see a real estate lawyer.
03-06-2008, 09:19 AM
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All I can say is, wow. I'm glad I'm not your neighbor
03-06-2008, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by
Lilybeans
Why did you buy knowing about the encroachment? You should see a real estate lawyer.
The "encroachment" on the left side was a complete surprise to us as we did not see any survey map from the seller showing us this "zero lot line" nor did he mention it to us. We made a stupid assumption that the houses were placed "centrally" within their property lines and even if we thought of "worse case situation" (which we didn't) we would have thought there would be at very, very, least 5 feet (hopefully 10 feet) between the side of a neighbor's house and the side of THEIR property. We only saw it on the survey map that WE received from the Title Company THREE WEEKS AFTER closing !! We come originally from Connecticut where we had close to 1 1/2 ACRES with well over 160 foot frontage and with a 50 foot wide raised ranch we had
well over 50 feet if not a lot more, between our house and the neighbors to the side of us. We also had a stream on one side and lots of trees (woods) on both sides as a natural buffer between neighbors. Our property went back like 450 feet into woods with no backyard neighbors.
YES, we miss that "freedom" and "privacy" !! In my wildest dreams or imagination I could NEVER imagine a house in a suburban gated community with a ZERO lot line, except in a place like Brooklyn or Queens, New York.
But we have learned to "accept" this neighbor "on the left" and like I originally stated, that is not the problem (except for his darm pool equipment on OUR property, which thankfully, is covered by a fence HE put up before we bought the house - which we found out by the survey is 2 1/2 feet ON
OUR PROPERTY !!)
The problem is the guy on the "right" side that just will NOT accept where HIS property line ends and ours starts......... there is nothing to "mark" it and the Association RULES say NO fence or hedges can be placed to make a border between properties !! This sux !!
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03-06-2008, 09:46 AM
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rtjr
All I can say is, wow. I'm glad I'm not your neighbor
And why is that ?? I am a real nice guy that takes excellent care of our property. I even cut the front, side of the neighbor's lawn when I cut mine, just to make all the grass look even. I edge his side and trim it and blow away the clippings, not to leave a mess.
I am POLITE when I as him to raise the height of his mower, which he says he can't, so I politely ask him to just STAY ON HIS SIDE, what is wrong with that ??
Would YOU want someone to cut YOUR grass lower (2 inches) than the "proper height" and actually "scalp" it ?? If you live in Florida you KNOW St. Augustine wants a 3 inch minimum cut !!
03-06-2008, 10:31 AM
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Oh man I feel for ya. I grew up in a house where we were constantly having yard wars with our neighbors. Some people just don't respect others property and don't care if their side looks trashy. I hope you can get this settled and that it doesn't cost you much money. And just for the record I would be happy to have you as a neighbor! More people should take pride in their property!
03-06-2008, 10:38 AM
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
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Why on earth would you have purchased a home in a place like this?
03-06-2008, 11:11 AM
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rtjr
All I can say is, wow. I'm glad I'm not your neighbor
ditto
no offense, but you sound a bit anal
"most of all three plus feet of pool equipment of theirs sits on OUR property"
does that seriously bother you?
most newer housing developments squeeze houses together and have ill defined lot lines, which I why I would never buy a home where I can't have a fence. if all else fails, perhaps you should show him your survey map to prove he is "encroaching" upon you and your property.
03-06-2008, 11:16 AM
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
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Jesslyn848
ditto
I think the thing that would bother me about it would be having to move their stuff to mow my lawn.
03-06-2008, 11:25 AM
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Well Ct,I can understand your concern.Isn't there a law when land is trodden on by non owners for x amount of time it becomes public ground.That is why they close down Rockefella centre every so often,so it doesn't become public land and remains privatley owned.
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People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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YES, we miss that "freedom" and "privacy" !! In my wildest dreams or imagination I could NEVER imagine a house in a suburban gated community with a ZERO lot line, except in a place like Brooklyn or Queens, New York.
