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Old 02-08-2015, 04:54 AM
 
Location: Tampa
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If you make +45k a year down here you are living excellent no worries
If you're single, live in a 1/1, and don't drive a fancy car, sure.
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Old 02-08-2015, 09:38 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, LA
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Wages in Florida are low. You have a lot of people who move here without jobs so that makes competition tougher. The state has corporate income taxes and makes you jump through the loopholes to get out of them so that affects supply of jobs. They seem to bribe companies with our tax dollars to bring jobs here but often they are low-paying jobs so that's more of a product of our bad politicians.

In addition to this the state is run by Southerners. Republicans, mostly who have rigged the districts so that they dominate state politics. They are anti-union, anti-labor, and are all for promoting a culture where people believe they are LUCKY if they have job. It's trickle down economics.
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Old 02-09-2015, 03:21 AM
 
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Wages in Florida are low. You have a lot of people who move here without jobs so that makes competition tougher. The state has corporate income taxes and makes you jump through the loopholes to get out of them so that affects supply of jobs. They seem to bribe companies with our tax dollars to bring jobs here but often they are low-paying jobs so that's more of a product of our bad politicians.

In addition to this the state is run by Southerners. Republicans, mostly who have rigged the districts so that they dominate state politics. They are anti-union, anti-labor, and are all for promoting a culture where people believe they are LUCKY if they have job. It's trickle down economics.
That's why they call it a "right to work" state.

Which really means, "a right to work for less", cause that's what you do.
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Old 02-09-2015, 06:08 AM
 
Location: Derby, CT
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I'm moving back to the northeast next month and one of my reasons is also low wages.

Back to making some real money!!
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Old 02-09-2015, 06:13 AM
 
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Weird, I have been working in Florida with a high school education since 1980. I have never felt underpaid or poor. I have purchased three homes in Florida and put two kids through college while my wife was a stay at home mom for my kids. We always went on two week long family vacations a year while they were growing up. Perhaps too many people want everything now and live beyond there means. Too many young families want that 4-bedroom 2300sf house in the burbs behind the fancy gate. My daddy told me to always live below your means and don't worry about keeping up with Mr Jones. The more toys you buy only adds more stress to your life. Perhaps the simple life is why my wife and I have been married over thirty years and My daughter just got married and is looking to buy her first house. Her husband and her want to be on solid footing before starting a family(weird I know). My son has already bought his house with an acre plus lot. The average starter home when I was growing up was 1200sf. My first home was just over that. Now most families would laugh at that house.
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Old 02-09-2015, 07:48 AM
 
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Weird, I have been working in Florida with a high school education since 1980. I have never felt underpaid or poor. I have purchased three homes in Florida and put two kids through college while my wife was a stay at home mom for my kids. We always went on two week long family vacations a year while they were growing up. Perhaps too many people want everything now and live beyond there means. Too many young families want that 4-bedroom 2300sf house in the burbs behind the fancy gate. My daddy told me to always live below your means and don't worry about keeping up with Mr Jones. The more toys you buy only adds more stress to your life. Perhaps the simple life is why my wife and I have been married over thirty years and My daughter just got married and is looking to buy her first house. Her husband and her want to be on solid footing before starting a family(weird I know). My son has already bought his house with an acre plus lot. The average starter home when I was growing up was 1200sf. My first home was just over that. Now most families would laugh at that house.
What was your chosen profession?
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Old 02-09-2015, 08:17 AM
 
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Yep, we figured it out. Just lower your expectation and you would do just fine. Heck, I am happy to be alive some would say. Like the singer said everyday you are not six feet under, is a GREAT day.

How many of you are there who can do this with high school diploma NOW?
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Old 02-09-2015, 08:19 AM
 
Location: Derby, CT
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Yep, we figured it out. Just lower your expectation and you would do just fine. Heck, I am happy to be alive some would say. Like the singer said everyday you are not six feet under, is a GREAT day.

How many of you are there who can do this with high school diploma NOW?
Unless you've proceeded with some training in some sort of trade, I'm willing to bet very VERY few.
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Old 02-09-2015, 08:48 AM
 
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The days of good paying jobs for the people with only a higs school diploma are long gone. But there is still a pocket of jobs that do pay good money for just having a HS diploma. They are in the north in the auto plants. Older workers are retireing so they have to rehire. I think new hires for GM starts at about $19.28 plus benefits after 90 days. But like I said these jobs are hard to secure because as soon as they are posted you have thousands of people trying to secure them.
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Old 02-09-2015, 09:14 AM
 
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My fiance and I do well here, both with only HS diplomas. Combined, our gross income last year was just under $95k (IT at a small company for him, and accounting at a global healthcare company for me for those of you wondering.) Experience in the IT industry can sometimes get you further than a degree. He's considering adding some upper level certifications as "insurance" if you will. My company, on the other hand, will pay 80% of my tuition if I decide to return to college and 100% if I pursue a master's degree later on.

For us it made sense to put off school in favor of working full-time, saving money and buying a very nice property at the bottom of the housing market crash. We were able to put 20% down on a $265k home that is now worth upwards of $350k, just two years later. Our total payment equates to less than 20% of our income. We also manage on one vehicle. That's how you get ahead anyplace - by not buying the top of the line, maximum you can afford (or worse) of everything. Live within or better yet, below, your means.

Being fiscally responsible isn't the same as "settling" for less. I'm incredibly happy here with what I have
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