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Old 12-31-2009, 09:47 AM
 
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The thread I started has had some really good replies. Many have been thoughtful and above all, short and to the point.

I am not sure how it ends from a simple thread that people end up arguing and being mean spirited with one another.

It reminds me of scenes from Reality Shows like the Real World where people argue vehemently over who did not clean up a coffee mug.

Opinions are just that. I learned long ago that trying to change people's opinions is an exercise in futility. Trying to change them on a message board I suspect is 100x harder.

Cheers to all and keep the opinions coming.

 
Old 01-01-2010, 06:08 AM
 
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By the way, what is Gecko fest??? sounds interesting..
One of a whole bunch of street festivals in the area: Gulfport Gecko Fest
 
Old 01-01-2010, 06:12 AM
 
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..Yes!!..i can remember visiting when they were nearing completion on the last phase over by Gulf To Bay..and traffic was bad enough..can't imagine what it was before the fly overs..
I remember it used to take me forty minutes to get from my job just below Ulmerton to Safety Harbor, going up 19 in the evenings. <shuddertwitch>
 
Old 01-01-2010, 06:25 AM
 
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Now as far as kid stuff, my kids are Disney age, so there isn't much else we have to do around, honestly Chuck E Cheese is a misery and it is so dirty and disgusting that someone can give me a million dollars and I would still not set foot into one again! and it is just a video game thing...I rather drive to Orlando and go to Game Works! or drive to Fort Lauderdale to Wannado City (I know it's not free, what IS free here??? as far as entertainment for the kids other than the beach!? and that for us is not free either because there's a fee to go to Honeymoon Island which we prefer because of more reasons than I want to list now........The Gymboree is very expensive for example, you need an extra income to afford it.....and when you're on one income it is out of the question...and that is about it.....my kids love to be in the water however now in the winter time we can't really go to the beach unless we are looking to get them sick! because the water is cold....
If you're looking for neat, mindless and pre-packaged kid-entertainment, then probably there's plentry to find fault with. But to say there's nothing to do is misleading. Our problem this year has been that there's too much to do: family shows at Ruth Eckerd's Hoffmann Center and TBPAC, visiting the manatees at TECO, Crystal Springs and Homosassa nature preserves, the Aquarium, zoo and MOSI, the multitude of offerings put on by the rec centers, the family days at Dali, a dozen or more small museums and historical centers...there just isn't enough time to do it all, unless you homeschool. Get a copy of one of those "Things to Do in Tampa BAy" books. It's not all about the beaches (though there are plenty of things to do at the beach besides swim, if you're creative).


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The reason Tampa may seem transient or is transient is because people move here, they realize it is not what they thought it would be and then they leave......
People move in and out for a lot of reasons. Most new residents move within a year of getting here, but often it's to somewhere else in the area. Either they're apartment dwellers looking for a better, more convenient, or splashier place, or they bow to conventional wisdom and rent a year, then buy when they know the area better. Or they get here and realize that the Indian-Rocks-Beach-to-downtown-Tampa commute that looked doable when they were in Illinois is really pretty insane, and move to Palma Ceia.
 
Old 01-01-2010, 07:00 AM
 
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Well said. You cannot compare a third rate touring company of "Les Miserables" to a Broadway production. Nor can you compare the Boston Pops to some local orchestra.

The other thing when something worthwhile does come to Tampa the tickets are quite pricey. And it is very rare that something like for example the Celtic Women even perform here.

Anyone who has lived or spent time in major cities can tell you can get same day tickets for Broadway shows or concerts. Usually at half price.

If you want to compare beaches that is one thing, but lets not pretend that culture is something you have at your fingetips here. Or that it equals other cities.
Define "culture". Better yet, define relative worth.
A touring company of, say, Rent in a temporary venue is not going to be precisely equal to seeing West Side Story at the Palace Theatre. You're absolutely correct. However, for many people who either don't know or don't care about the nuances of difference, it's perfectly fine. For those who do know and care...you're absolutely right. You win. Good on ya.
I'll even stand you a critique of the Clearwater Jazz Festival, which of late has forsaken actual jazz for an annoyingly Kenny G vibe.
Boston Pops as an example of high culture, though? Seriously? Okay, then, you'll have to allow me the following:
How do you rank a gallery opening of a relatively unknown artist in Tampa vs a gallery opening of a relatively unknown artist in, say, Boston or Charleston or LA? How do you quantify a venue that sponsors performances as disparate as Trombone Shorty and Enter the Haggis? Or a radio station that gives you the Polka Hour, hip-hop, klezmer and seventies R&B...all in the same weekend? How do you describe a city that promotes Toby Keith at the Strawberry Festival and TIGLFF?
As for Celtic Woman...eh. Overhyped and not worth the price, IMO. But I saw Dougie MacLean at the Palladium for $20, and Celtic Crossroads at the Murray (Ruth Eckerd's more intimate performance space) for $10, and I'd go to either again in a heartbeat.

Tampa's not New York or London or Rio. No kidding. I think only an idiot would move here expecting it to be. But it's not Mayberry, either. It's a mid-sized city, with all the good and bad that goes with that.
 
Old 01-01-2010, 07:18 AM
 
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Define "culture". Better yet, define relative worth.
A touring company of, say, Rent in a temporary venue is not going to be precisely equal to seeing West Side Story at the Palace Theatre. You're absolutely correct. However, for many people who either don't know or don't care about the nuances of difference, it's perfectly fine. For those who do know and care...you're absolutely right. You win. Good on ya.
I'll even stand you a critique of the Clearwater Jazz Festival, which of late has forsaken actual jazz for an annoyingly Kenny G vibe.
Boston Pops as an example of high culture, though? Seriously? Okay, then, you'll have to allow me the following:
How do you rank a gallery opening of a relatively unknown artist in Tampa vs a gallery opening of a relatively unknown artist in, say, Boston or Charleston or LA? How do you quantify a venue that sponsors performances as disparate as Trombone Shorty and Enter the Haggis? Or a radio station that gives you the Polka Hour, hip-hop, klezmer and seventies R&B...all in the same weekend? How do you describe a city that promotes Toby Keith at the Strawberry Festival and TIGLFF?
As for Celtic Woman...eh. Overhyped and not worth the price, IMO. But I saw Dougie MacLean at the Palladium for $20, and Celtic Crossroads at the Murray (Ruth Eckerd's more intimate performance space) for $10, and I'd go to either again in a heartbeat.

Tampa's not New York or London or Rio. No kidding. I think only an idiot would move here expecting it to be. But it's not Mayberry, either. It's a mid-sized city, with all the good and bad that goes with that.
Great post!
 
Old 01-01-2010, 07:47 AM
 
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Folks. please stay on topic.. One postive/one negative.. discussing other cities was not part of the original post.
 
Old 01-01-2010, 01:42 PM
 
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former resident of fla
 
Old 01-01-2010, 03:00 PM
 
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Great post!
You didn't answer Algia's question. Have you ever traveled out of the country?

Your idea of culture is limited to Florida. How sad for you.
 
Old 01-01-2010, 06:02 PM
 
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Folks. please stay on topic.. One postive/one negative.. discussing other cities was not part of the original post.
Can I count the Clearwater Jazz Festival as both?
I like the idea of it, and I really like that it's free. But they need to get away from that elevator music they call smooth jazz. The Blues Festival, Dunedin Wines the Blues, and a couple of other music events are less slickly packaged, and just...better.
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