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Old 05-27-2010, 09:53 PM
 
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(Boycotting BP) is exactly the kind of futile gesture that Big Companies come to expect from the American People.

We are lazy, selfish and afraid to stand up for ourselves when Big Business steamrolls us.
I think we should lynch the entire executive team at BP. Not the traditional kind of lynching - I think we should push for each and every one of them to do a day's worth of spill clean-up for every day that the oil leaks. And I don't mean some nancy-pants clean-up work sitting in an office producing GANT charts to schedule the volunteers on the beaches, I mean the kind where you have to wear those big yellow protective over-alls and gloves and you get oil all over yourself trying to scrub it off of rocks and birds.

Because these guys really have no skin in the game. They've got millions in the bank already, if BP collapses half them will still have jobs with whatever company acquires the pieces and all of them will have enough money to live very well even if they never work another day in their lives. If the government fines BP, that money will just come out of higher fuel prices. So, as a lesson to all of the people who make the decisions but bear so little responsibility for the results, I think the ones in charge need to be made to take that responsibility up close and real personal.
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Old 05-30-2010, 04:50 AM
 
Location: Tampa
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You cannot boycott BP. BP has their hand in thousands of products around the globe. You can stop going to their gas stations, sure... but that is NOT BPs largest source of revenue, and you are only hurting the franchise owner/small business men and women who own those stations.

If you really gave a crap about the environment for other then selfish reasons, you should have tried to "boycott" BP a long time ago for:



- illeagaly dumping hazardous waste for years (which they were eventually caught doing)

- The 2005 Texas refinery explosion that left 15 dead and 180 injured do to mismanagement from corporate on down (investigations by OSHA revieled) and resulted in the largest fine in OSHA history

- their violation of the clean air act (which resulted in a felony conviction and 3 years probation)

- the propane price manipulation scandal, where BP paid the US government a $303 million fine, the largest commodity market settlement ever in the US

- accusations of them benefiting from a regime of terror carried out by Colombian government paramilitaries to protect a 450-mile pipeline in columbia

- being cited as the most polluting company in the US based on EPA toxic release data

- being charged with burning polluted gases at its Ohio refinery (for which it was fined $1.7 million)

- allowing 270,000 gallons of crude oil to spread into the Alaskan tundra (for which they are facing criminal charges)

- being named one of the "ten worst corporations" in both 2001 and 2005 based on its environmental and human rights records

- accusations of human rights violations for their involvement in the construction of the Baku–Tbilisi–Ceyhan pipeline.




...But you want to boycott BP now? a day late and a dollar short people. and by putting gas in your car elsewhere will only hurt the innocent small business owner- which really is rather hypocritical given the other threads on this forum where everyone complains about the economy.
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Old 05-30-2010, 10:39 AM
 
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It's true that the Mississippi River does help to dilute some of the oil, but it's obviously not doing that great of a job. The oil is killing so much of the Gulf Coast already, and if it gets into the Gulf Stream, well there goes Florida too. Another hurricane may be the only thing that will clean house! Irony at its best.
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Old 05-30-2010, 10:47 AM
 
Location: florida
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i heard there even used hair to try and get rid of it! shame in a week im going away my last chance to enjoy a beach before the oil spill gets to florida
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Old 05-31-2010, 06:03 AM
 
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Default Oil Arrival

One estimate I saw yesterday gives the Tampa Bay area one month before
our beaches start to resemble Louisiana. They will try burning the oil
as it approaches in a last ditch effort to keep it off the shore, but
burning the oil will put lethal toxic pollutants into the air which will be dangerous to breathe and people will have to be relocated away from the coasts.
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Old 06-01-2010, 03:49 PM
 
Location: Boca Raton FL
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Yesterday I saw a large, dead sea turtle on St. Pete Beach. In the Sarasota forum there's a post about a dead tiger shark found just offshore of Casey Key.

Of course we have no way of knowing if it's the result of chemicals/oil, but I have a really bad feeling about this.
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Old 06-01-2010, 06:37 PM
 
Location: Lincoln County Road or Armageddon
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Something I saw.

YouTube - Oil Forecast: Spill drifting toward Florida's West Coast; 120 miles from Tampa Bay
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Old 06-01-2010, 06:42 PM
 
Location: Lincoln County Road or Armageddon
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Here's a better version from USF College of Marine Science.

WFSFCS hindcast and forecast surface trajectories for Gulf of Mexico Oil Spill using OI Wind
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Old 06-02-2010, 06:49 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Pinellas County
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that is useful thanks - I am constantly getting emails from my beach condo vacationers anxiously seeking advice on whether to still come or not to the gulf beaches. I will show them this.
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Old 06-02-2010, 09:47 AM
 
Location: Myrtle Beach
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Got to love how the prediction maps stops on the last day with the arrows all pointing at the coast.
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