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I think you both are on the same side. One of the realities of the teaching job is teachers don't get vacation days. They just have fewer working days than most in the private sector. Teachers have as GolfGal pointed out 2-3 personal days which they can take at any time. A person in private industry can take their time off in January and go on a winter vacation. Most teachers have to coordinate a trip off with their days not working. Which for the most part are Christmas and Easter if they want an extended vacation up to a week or so. They can pretty much forget a two week trip other than during the summer. Great if you love the beach. Not as great if you love to ski. Try marrying a teacher and scheduling your honeymoon.
LOL! We all have our trials. When our kids were in school, we had to schedule our vacations around those days too. DH's company shut down for a week last Christmas; if you wanted to get paid, you had to take vaction time. Of course, I had to work. Often in health care, you aren't allowed to take off a lot of time at Christmas, so that everyone can get some time off. DH also can't take off more than ~ a week at any given time, due to being a supervisor. It's interesting to hear what everyone's problems are!
To those of you that hate teachers, go back to school, get an education, and make that million dollar a year salary.
Or just shut up.
Or you can do what I did. Go back to school and make peanuts because you're stuck in charter schools. Teachers are, definitely, not overpaid in charter schools. I'll bet they'd shut up if they tried that.
People look at teacher salaries after 20 years and a master's degree plus 30 credits and think that's what all teachers make..... I wish...
LOL! We all have our trials. When our kids were in school, we had to schedule our vacations around those days too. DH's company shut down for a week last Christmas; if you wanted to get paid, you had to take vaction time. Of course, I had to work. Often in health care, you aren't allowed to take off a lot of time at Christmas, so that everyone can get some time off. DH also can't take off more than ~ a week at any given time, due to being a supervisor. It's interesting to hear what everyone's problems are!
Sure the more members of the family involved the more complicated it becomes. I was referencing one person with the exception of getting married. When it comes to the whole family teachers can have the advantage of having everyone off during early August. Even teacher workshops and summer school are done sometime around then. Just gotta be back in time for high schools Fall activities if you have kids involved. Part of the challenge is limited personal days and if you follow the rules and only use sick days if you are sick. Again this is a comparison amongst those employed as professionals who typically have 4 weeks of vacation or more. Blue collar workers often don't. The reasons I mention marriage is because young college graduates in love often plan for a post graduation Fall wedding and honeymoon only to find out that they aren't suppose to be able to if they teach.
Or you can do what I did. Go back to school and make peanuts because you're stuck in charter schools. Teachers are, definitely, not overpaid in charter schools. I'll bet they'd shut up if they tried that.
People look at teacher salaries after 20 years and a master's degree plus 30 credits and think that's what all teachers make..... I wish...
It's worth remembering this thread started as a Pittsburgh-specific thread before getting moved to the general education forum at which point the original context more or less got lost. Teachers in the Pittsburgh area are not exactly struggling, especially considering the low COL there.
Or you can do what I did. Go back to school and make peanuts because you're stuck in charter schools. Teachers are, definitely, not overpaid in charter schools. I'll bet they'd shut up if they tried that.
It's worth remembering this thread started as a Pittsburgh-specific thread before getting moved to the general education forum at which point the original context more or less got lost. Teachers in the Pittsburgh area are not exactly struggling, especially considering the low COL there.
The funny thing is this thread didn't start out with a teacher talking about they were struggling it was about one district that paid very well and the OP taking exception to that. Never did say he they lived there and were being taxed there. Wonder what the pay scale is where the OP lives?
If your husband works a full time, 5 day a week job, he is paid for 260 days/yr. His PTO comes out of the 260. I don't get your point about "all 2 of them"; I certainly said nothing to imply that teachers shouldn't get those days.
Wow no holidays off for any one in the private sector either? Because most white collar workers with similar educational backgrounds as teachers work about 250 with holidays plus their time off. If its 4 or so weeks, you are looking at 220-230 days a year. Not alot more than the 200 days a year that teachers work. So for 10% less time a year, teacher get paid 25-50% less than their counterparts in private industry.
That is hardly overpaid.
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