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Old 05-18-2016, 05:53 AM
 
Location: Brentwood, Tennessee
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Rule # 9 from my list of "Reality" poster:

There is no such thing as extra credit in real life. Try asking a college professor for extra credit. Better yet, try asking your boss for extra credit when you fail to turn in a report or complete a task. Doctors can’t ask for extra credit when their incompetence kills a patient. Do not ask it from me.

My students learn very quickly not to ask me this, as I give each one of them a copy of this list. Here are the rest of them:

Reality
  1. Life is not fair; get used to it.
  2. The world won’t care about your self-esteem. The world will expect you to accomplish something BEFORE you feel good about yourself.
  3. You will NOT make $50,000 right out of high school. You won’t be a vice-president with an exotic foreign sports-car until you’ve earned it.
  4. If you think your teacher is tough, wait until you get a boss. He doesn’t have tenure.
  5. Flipping burgers is NOT beneath your dignity. Your grandparents had a different word for flipping burgers; they called it opportunity.
  6. If YOU screw up, it’s not your parents’ fault, so don’t whine about your mistakes. Learn from them.
  7. Before you were born, your parents weren’t as boring as they are now. They got that way from paying your bills, cleaning your clothes, and listening to you talk about how great you are. So, before you save the rain forest from the blood-sucking parasites of your parents’ generation, try delousing the closet in YOUR own room first.
  8. Your school may have done away with winners and losers, but life has not. In some schools they have abolished failing grades; they’ll give you as many times as you want to get the answer right. This, of course, doesn’t bear the slightest resemblance to ANYTHING in real life.
  9. There is no such thing as extra credit in real life. Try asking a college professor for extra credit. Better yet, try asking your boss for extra credit when you fail to turn in a report or complete a task. Doctors can’t ask for extra credit when their incompetence kills a patient. Do not ask it from me.
  10. Life is not divided into semesters. You don’t get summers off, and very few employers are interested in helping you find yourself. Do that on your own time.
  11. Television is NOT real life. In real life, people actually have to leave the coffee shop and go to jobs. In real life, drama and conflict is not staged, encouraged and amplified for 60 minute segments. Nor is it entertainment for mature, well-adjusted people.
  12. Be nice to nerds. Chances are you’ll end up working for one some day.
  13. There are 7,000,000,000 people on this planet. About 50-100 of them know, love and care about you. This means that 99.99% of the rest of the world neither knows nor cares about your existence. Therefore, learn some humility and remember – the world does not revolve around you.

You may have seen such a list before. This is My personally amended one. Feel free to utilize to your heart's content.


Besides, that's WAY too wordy.
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Old 05-18-2016, 05:56 AM
 
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*hands pile of work*

"Feel free to do these for 1/2 credit by tomorrow."
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Old 05-18-2016, 05:57 AM
 
Location: Brentwood, Tennessee
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*hands pile of work*

"Feel free to do these for 1/2 credit by tomorrow."
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Old 05-18-2016, 06:17 AM
 
Location: Volunteer State
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Besides, that's WAY too wordy.
The scores of students that have come back to thank me for preparing them for life/college would beg to differ. You want to molly-coddle your students, that's your prerogative. For over 20 years, I've watched students who have been treated as such, only to be chewed up and spit out by the reality that is life. The earlier they learn to deal with it, the better.

As to wordiness: this is on the back of their classroom guideline & procedures handout. Other teacher's have requested a copy, along with the principal, to post in their own rooms. Parents have emailed their enjoyment, like, and support of it. Your opinion of its length has been noted and discarded as irrelevant.
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Old 05-18-2016, 06:30 AM
 
Location: Volunteer State
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Umm actually yes there is such thing as extra credit in real life. In fact there is no such thing as grades in real life. If you complete a project for your company they don't say "Lets see you get a B-.." Its either pass or fail. The extra credit is networking, ass kissing, favoritism etc. You teachers love to spout things about the real life but most of you havent worked a day in the real world.
Thank you for assuming that I - or many other teacher across the nation - have never experienced the real world. Way to go with your condescending and all-encompassing assumption that none of us have ever worked outside of school. Very good job of being asinine.

Can a doctor ask for extra credit if his incompetence kills a patient?
Can an engineer ask for extra credit if the bridge she designs and fails, killing people?
Can a policeman ask for extra credit if they shoot/kill an innocent person?
Can a fireman ask for extra credit if they fail to respond in time to save people from a fire?
Can a soldier ask for extra credit if they run away during a combat situation, allowing his fellow soldier to take the hit?

I could go on all day long. Shall I continue to prove you wrong?

Networking is not "extra-credit". It's simply "credit" for doing your job better than others. If anything, there's your grades in real life. You work harder, then you get better results, which leads to more rewards in life.

For simply doing the job that's required of you, and doing it right the first time.
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Old 05-18-2016, 06:34 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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You teachers love to spout things about the real life but most of you havent worked a day in the real world.
I've worked in other fields before becoming a teacher. This is my last year teaching K-12. Teaching is the hardest job I've ever had. If it's so easy, why doesn't everyone teach?

You're somewhat right about "extra credit" in the real world. If anything, that's butt kissing for personal gain.
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Old 05-18-2016, 06:34 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Thank you for assuming that I - or many other teacher across the nation - have never experienced the real world. Way to go with your condescending and all-encompassing assumption that none of us have ever worked outside of school. Very good job of being asinine.

Can a doctor ask for extra credit if his incompetence kills a patient?
Can an engineer ask for extra credit if the bridge she designs and fails, killing people?
Can a policeman ask for extra credit if they shoot/kill an innocent person?
Can a fireman ask for extra credit if they fail to respond in time to save people from a fire?
Can a soldier ask for extra credit if they run away during a combat situation, allowing his fellow soldier to take the hit?

I could go on all day long. Shall I continue to prove you wrong?

Networking is not "extra-credit". It's simply "credit" for doing your job better than others. If anything, there's your grades in real life. You work harder, then you get better results, which leads to more rewards in life.

For simply doing the job that's required of you, and doing it right the first time.
Those are pass/fail scenarios, as I said grades don't exist in the real world. You reinforced my point.
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Old 05-18-2016, 07:00 AM
 
Location: Brentwood, Tennessee
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You want to molly-coddle your students, that's your prerogative.
Never said that. There's a world of options between "molly-coddling" and your ... list.
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Old 05-18-2016, 08:20 AM
 
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I always noticed in high school that the students with poor grades got more opportunities to better their grades than the students with good grades.

As a good student, I was never given opportunities to make up homework, redo tests, or do extra credit to bring a B+ up to an A-. But I know a lot of students who had Fs and were allowed do all sorts of things to pull their F up to a C-.
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Old 05-18-2016, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Rhode Island
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If the student tried really hard and is only a point or two away from the next grade up, I will usually give it to him/her.
Wow! Sorry sir, but you are part of the problem.
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