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Old 03-03-2017, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Depends on where you are. In yours and my common former system the last few years I taught, you were checked frequently by Department Chairs, in-building Administrators, Educational Specialist, Testing Coordinator as well as central office staff that if it was March 3rd you were on page 421.

What made it a real joy was that the every other week Benchmark tests didn't match up with the curriculum guides and sequence of instruction we were required to follow.
But it wasn't because of Common Core because Virginia didn't adopt it.
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Old 03-03-2017, 02:02 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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But it wasn't because of Common Core because Virginia didn't adopt it.
Our common system isn't in Virginia. It's your first one.
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Old 03-03-2017, 04:55 PM
 
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That's not forcing anyone to do anything, as is evidenced by the fact that Oklahoma, Texas, Virginia, Alaska, Nebraska, Indiana, and South Carolina are not in Common Core.
Sure, technically, you can say Indiana doesn't have Common Core. But when you compare the academic standards we use with Common Core standards you'll see that they're pretty much identical... just reworded. We have switched names/brands of standards countless times within the last decade. It's all the same, IMO, at the elementary level.
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Old 03-03-2017, 05:56 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Sure, technically, you can say Indiana doesn't have Common Core. But when you compare the academic standards we use with Common Core standards you'll see that they're pretty much identical... just reworded. We have switched names/brands of standards countless times within the last decade. It's all the same, IMO, at the elementary level.
Perhaps that's because they are valid standards.
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Old 03-03-2017, 06:57 PM
 
Location: Whoville....
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I teach high school and I think we need common standards. What children learn shouldn't be a roll of the dice. Children shouldn't be learning totally different things in different districts but they are. I was appalled at how low a level my dd's "Honors" chemistry class was taught. Kids in the lowest chemistry class in the district I teach in learn more than she did. The basics should be the same from district to district. Personally, I'm happy with NGSS. Common core has topics that I kind of scratch my head over but for the most part from what I've seen it's good.
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Old 03-03-2017, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Suburbia
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Depends on where you are. In yours and my common former system the last few years I taught, you were checked frequently by Department Chairs, in-building Administrators, Educational Specialist, Testing Coordinator as well as central office staff that if it was March 3rd you were on page 421.

What made it a real joy was that the every other week Benchmark tests didn't match up with the curriculum guides and sequence of instruction we were required to follow.
I've never experienced anything like this.
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Old 03-03-2017, 07:20 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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I've never experienced anything like this.
Come across the Potomac and work in Prince George's.
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Old 03-03-2017, 07:41 PM
 
Location: Suburbia
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Come across the Potomac and work in Prince George's.
That would be a stupid thing to do.

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Old 03-03-2017, 07:43 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Come across the Potomac and work in Prince George's.

I can't speak about what PG County Schools are like today. But years ago, when they passed TRIM (Tax Relief In Maryland...a Tea Party-like policy whereby...at least back then...government was never supposed to take in more money than in the year it was passed...a stupid-ash concept)...it gutted schools. Average class sizes in middle school went from about 24 to 40. Teachers taught 6 instead of 5 classes a day. The year it happened each teacher was restricted to 1 ream of paper per quarter (not even enough to make unit tests). I took a pay cut and a cut in earned pension credit and I got out then...and thank god I did. And to be honest, the people of PG County deserve the mess they have. It isn't what god hath wrought, it was what the voters wrought onto themselves. Ignorant cheapskates who didn't give a rat's asp about what would happen to their children's education.
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Old 03-03-2017, 07:46 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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I've never experienced anything like this.
I actually have heard of school systems that operate that way. It's pitiful.
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