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Old 08-13-2020, 10:27 AM
 
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A lot of kids are heavily influenced by the parents who may have very narrow opinions or require their kids mirror their own prejudices. Destabilizing would uproot those hardened beliefs by exposing them to facts in the real world. All you have to do is look at the idiots who pose as conservatives or liberals. They can't see both sides of any story. They bring their own prejudices to the discussion and provide useless highly politicized comments.
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Old 08-13-2020, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Brentwood, Tennessee
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They bring their own prejudices to the discussion and provide useless highly politicized comments.
Who's to say this teacher isn't doing that? His reluctance to have other adults hear what he has to say is pretty telling.

A classroom is not a bully pulpit from which teachers dispense their own agendas that are only marginally related to the class subject.
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Old 08-13-2020, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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I don't want teachers teaching anything but the subjects they are hired to teach. This indoctrination is getting out of hand - it is the parents job to instill in them the values they want. It's called raising your child. That is the parents responsibility, not the teachers. The child most likely has access to world and current events and can then make up their own mind about what they feel is right/wrong/acceptable or open for discussion.
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Old 08-13-2020, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Canada
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Do they teach about religions in Canadian schools? I've never seen it done anywhere we've lived in the US. I took an elective in college about world religions, but not nothing like that was available in elementary/high school.
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Education is a provincial matter in Canada, so I can't speak for all provinces, but yes here in BC we do. In Grade 12 of Secondary School.

https://curriculum.gov.bc.ca/curricu...orld-religions
Kara, thank you for asking that question, and Nat, thank you for answering Kara with the above link and a perfect example of what I'd like to see all students learning about.

I think that is something that all schools everywhere in the world should be teaching (most especially in the USA for its own betterment and to set a good example for all the rest of the world which always has eyes on USA!!!) but if I had any say in the matter I would prefer to see it started no later than Grade 8 in all Secondary Schools.

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Old 08-13-2020, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Sioux Falls, SD area
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Who's to say this teacher isn't doing that? His reluctance to have other adults hear what he has to say is pretty telling.

A classroom is not a bully pulpit from which teachers dispense their own agendas that are only marginally related to the class subject.
The above post says it all. If this teacher is "worried" about conservative parents, he/she probably has a right to be worried. After all, just what was he/she planning on teaching these children? A teacher with a mindset like this should give everyone concerns when it comes to what personal views are being shoved down the throats of our kids.
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Old 08-13-2020, 11:49 AM
 
Location: California
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If teachers stuck to ACADEMICS then none of them would need to worry about what parents heard.
Exactly, and that should not include bowing to a socialist way of life when Americans are born free to chose our own future. If anyone believes teachers don't pander to the left, they need to study current events and learn about commissioned sales people who say anything to get what they want. Just watch how the commissioned sales people circle the wagons, shouting they are of high moral standard who never bend the truth. If that were true, teachers should not be teaching the children so much hate for the U.S. and the people who have lead our great nation.
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Old 08-13-2020, 01:38 PM
 
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Who's to say this teacher isn't doing that? His reluctance to have other adults hear what he has to say is pretty telling.

A classroom is not a bully pulpit from which teachers dispense their own agendas that are only marginally related to the class subject.
You're distorting the story and the facts. The fact is culturally important literature is discussed in English classes. Discussing a book is neither an agenda nor is its discussion in the classroom the use of a bully pulpit.

The fact that you and like-minded people can't handle certain books or topics being discussed is probably a good enough reason to exclude from the class. You're certainly not capable of arguing about the controversial topics that the teacher has brought up. That is the root of the problem that the teacher brings up. Some people have beliefs that can't be argued with with facts. It is like religion or politics.
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Old 08-13-2020, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Born + raised SF Bay; Tyler, TX now WNY
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Teachers aren’t universally lefty either. My daughter’s first grade teacher was pretty outspokenly on the Trump Train. Which is fine, but I did have to complain when she let it creep into the classroom.
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Old 08-13-2020, 02:52 PM
 
Location: Sioux Falls, SD area
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You're distorting the story and the facts. The fact is culturally important literature is discussed in English classes. Discussing a book is neither an agenda nor is its discussion in the classroom the use of a bully pulpit.

The fact that you and like-minded people can't handle certain books or topics being discussed is probably a good enough reason to exclude from the class. You're certainly not capable of arguing about the controversial topics that the teacher has brought up. That is the root of the problem that the teacher brings up. Some people have beliefs that can't be argued with with facts. It is like religion or politics.
You do know that schools across the country are banning books like The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn and To Kill a Mockingbird, don't you. These books were literary classics written during a different time that DEFINITELY has controversial topics that the liberals controlling education now a days are afraid to discuss. This is the same mindset running around tearing down historical statues. Yes, there may be things offensive about both, but the liberal mindset is ban, ban, ban.

Be careful pointing fingers at us "people" not being able to handle certain books or topics. A lot more on your side of the fence feel that way than on the conservative side. Heck, whatever your opinion may be on a matter, we'll even let you say it instead of shouting you down or physically attacking you.
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Old 08-13-2020, 03:06 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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You do know that schools across the country are banning books like The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn and To Kill a Mockingbird, don't you. These books were literary classics written during a different time that DEFINITELY has controversial topics that the liberals controlling education now a days are afraid to discuss. This is the same mindset running around tearing down historical statues. Yes, there may be things offensive about both, but the liberal mindset is ban, ban, ban.

Be careful pointing fingers at us "people" not being able to handle certain books or topics. A lot more on your side of the fence feel that way than on the conservative side. Heck, whatever your opinion may be on a matter, we'll even let you say it instead of shouting you down or physically attacking you.
And this is part of the problem. I caught Holy Hell from a group of parents one year over the one, one, chapter in the World History text concerning the Stone Age.

My favorite was the mother who insisted her son be given alternate assignments in Health class (which is policy) when the Sex Ed unit rolled around. This kid was a Senior who'd taken the class every year since 9th Grade (which is when it was offered just to get it out of the way) and failed it each year. By the time he was in 12th Grade he had fathered three kids and had another one in the oven.

I didn't teach Health but was tasked with supervising him his senior attempt at the class when he was exempted. Oh, he failed the class again and didn't graduate on time. The story was that he went to night school or summer school and finally passed it.
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