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I wish some of the educators would step in here and tell us what the requirements are. I do think most colleges require a "subject" major as well for teacher education degrees.
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I did earlier. But I'll try again.
B.S. Degree -- Full major in Geology. Minors in geography and education. I was offered a job in the field of geology, but opted to teach.
M.S. Degree -- Full major in Geology. Minor in education.
A.G.S. Degree -- All educational administration courses.
That is a poor analogy. I don't think they were suggesting some case-by-case refund, but more a macro-level performance compensation where all the results of all their students would be used on an aggregate basis to determine pay. So in a comparable scenario it would be how all the doctor's patients were diagnosed or misdiagnosed over a certain amount of time, which would be more in line with other professions where pay is directly correlated to work performance.
Not saying I think that is a good idea for teacher pay, or that it would even be possible to fairly implement, just sayin'.
B.S. Degree -- Full major in Geology. Minors in geography and education. I was offered a job in the field of geology, but opted to teach.
M.S. Degree -- Full major in Geology. Minor in education.
A.G.S. Degree -- All educational administration courses.
I didn't ask what your qualifications are, I'm asking if a "subject" major is required for an ed degree in every state, or any state.
I didn't ask what your qualifications are, I'm asking if a "subject" major is required for an ed degree in every state, or any state.
It is not. And frankly it's not necessarily appropriate for every level of education. A physics major does not make someone more qualified to teach 3rd grade.
I didn't ask what your qualifications are, I'm asking if a "subject" major is required for an ed degree in every state, or any state.
Not an ed degree but for a teaching certification for high school teachers.
NJ certification currently requires 30 credits in biology specifically. That is eight credits less than the number of bio credits required for a degree at Rutgers, the state flagship.
It is not. And frankly it's not necessarily appropriate for every level of education. A physics major does not make someone more qualified to teach 3rd grade.
I didn't ask what your qualifications are, I'm asking if a "subject" major is required for an ed degree in every state, or any state.
You'd have to define subject major. I don't have a math major but I'm considered a math major WRT teaching in Michigan. My stand alone degrees are in engineering. I'm pretty sure I haven't taken the right classes or even the right number of classes for a stand alone math major. My math "major" was 32 credits of math. My chem "major" was 40 and my physics "minor" 24. I have a stand alone degree in chemical engineering but that doesn't actually count towards anything as far as education is concerned in Michigan.
I for one am fine with my salary. I willingly traded more money for benefits and stability (or small but regular increments). My only issue is that they are taking those and many of our other benefits away. Do you think we need to be doing he things you said just to "earn" so to speak what is already in our contracts?
In the Work and Employment forum, the "employer" types very frequently post that a job owes you nothing, and that you owe everything to your job. Note that I am NOT agreeing with that practice, just stating that it's the current reality. If "engineers" are not entitled to anything, and if I am labeled "whiny and entitled" just for wanting a living wage, then why are teachers special?
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