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Lazy students drag down the rest of society by their elite attitude that I deserve respect because I am paying good money for this class. No, unless they are trying, I will fail them, just like the real world outside of college.
Actually I am told I am one of their best teachers and the students give me great feedback and the mystery shoppers from the administration always report I am excellent.
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Originally Posted by nitokenshi
You seem to be under the impression you are teaching 5 year olds with your posts about dress code,etc
I surely hope your students are filling out those forms reporting your conduct. You need to find another job.
Lazy students drag down the rest of society by their elite attitude that I deserve respect because I am paying good money for this class. No, unless they are trying, I will fail them, just like the real world outside of college.
Actually I am told I am one of their best teachers and the students give me great feedback and the mystery shoppers from the administration always report I am excellent.
I want to know what your definition of "trying" is? I also want to know if you teach at a community college, university, or tech school. Not what establishment, but what type.
Lazy students drag down the rest of society by their elite attitude that I deserve respect because I am paying good money for this class. No, unless they are trying, I will fail them, just like the real world outside of college.
Actually I am told I am one of their best teachers and the students give me great feedback and the mystery shoppers from the administration always report I am excellent.
They are buying a service. How they use it - if they pay attention - that is up to them.
If you went out to dinner you wouldn't want your waiter to kick you out because you didn't look like you were enjoying your meal, would you? Same thing.
Judge them by their performance on tests/papers/assignments and nothing else.
I also escaped high school instruction to teach in college. Classroom management at the college level is typically a lot more subtle than using the techniques you describe. Angering HS students was sometimes necessary as a motivator, angering college students who are already motivated enough to pay their money to be there may be unwise. You can alienate an entire class, and make it that much more difficult to gain their cooperation when trying to impart difficult concepts or encourage class discussion.
If your students are bored for one or two class periods, they may have other issues. If they are continually bored, you may want to reexamine your presentation. Good luck.
I teach evening classes at both a VOC Tech Program and at a local Community College. I do not agree that the students are anymore motivated than High School. To many tell me that they are not taking the class because they have any interest in the topic but because they want the credit or certificate. I do not want to turn it into a worthless diploma mill where we appease the students because they are paying.
You are right, if I acted like Professor Kingsfield and picked on students the class will turn against me and nothing is accomplished.
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I also escaped high school instruction to teach in college. Classroom management at the college level is typically a lot more subtle than using the techniques you describe. Angering HS students was sometimes necessary as a motivator, angering college students who are already motivated enough to pay their money to be there may be unwise. You can alienate an entire class, and make it that much more difficult to gain their cooperation when trying to impart difficult concepts or encourage class discussion.
If your students are bored for one or two class periods, they may have other issues. If they are continually bored, you may want to reexamine your presentation. Good luck.
I don't mean to sound rude OP, but you sound like you're on an ego trip. I get the feeling this has little to do with you wanting to help your students. They are obviously motivated to get the certificate and better their lives, they just don't have much interest in your particular subject. Not everyone finds every subject interesting, get over it. If they can pass your tests they are obviously getting the information they need and that's all that matters.
People seem to go to easy on today's students. They assume that passing the test is enough. It is not, nor should it be. We are in a new time here in America, we need to toughen the standards or we will turn into a third world country. All aspects of the students actions need to be determined and evaluated. That includes: attendance, class room participation, interest, preparation, energy level, testing scores and punctuality. Just like the corporate world.
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I don't mean to sound rude OP, but you sound like you're on an ego trip. I get the feeling this has little to do with you wanting to help your students. They are obviously motivated to get the certificate and better their lives, they just don't have much interest in your particular subject. Not everyone finds every subject interesting, get over it. If they can pass your tests they are obviously getting the information they need and that's all that matters.
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Just passing tests is not enough now a days
