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Old 05-24-2011, 08:49 PM
 
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Opinions on both of these schools?!
I want to major in business!!!!!!
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Old 05-25-2011, 01:04 AM
 
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One question would be, are you planning to stick with a 2 year degree, or move on to a 4 year college afterwards?

I couldn't tell you much about the schools themselves...but Pellissippi State is in suburban Knoxville, and Vol State is in suburban Nashville. Pellissippi is about 10 minutes closer to downtown Knoxville than Vol State is to downtown Nashville (if that is a consideration). Nashville is considerably larger than Knoxville in terms of population/city amenities/things to do...but I wouldn't call Knoxville boring. In some ways, the two cities are pretty similar as far as what you can find in them.
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Old 05-25-2011, 10:30 PM
 
Location: Brentwood, Tennessee
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I don't think you should go juco. Look into ETSU. It's in Johnson City, which feels like a small town. It has a lot of good programs, though.

Don't you live in Montana, or did I read wrong? That's a really long way to move and pay out-of-state tuition.

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Old 05-26-2011, 07:47 PM
 
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Yes I live in Montana, which is why I wanted to go to JuCo first so I can pay in state tuition at a 4 year. and I know it's far but I loveeeeee the south
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Old 05-26-2011, 10:49 PM
 
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Yes I live in Montana, which is why I wanted to go to JuCo first so I can pay in state tuition at a 4 year. and I know it's far but I loveeeeee the south
It's not necessarily going to work that way for you.

Unlike most other states, TN does not have a definite residency requirement for in-state tuition. Rather, if you want in-state tuition here, you have to show "clear and convincing evidence" that you permanently reside in Tennessee and that you did not move here for the purpose of going to college.

According to state law..."Unless the contrary appears from clear and convincing evidence, it shall be presumed that an emancipated person does not acquire domicile in this State while enrolled as a full-time student at any public or private higher educational institution in this State, as such as status is defined by such institution."

So not to rain on your parade, but your plan is probably not going to work. On the Memphis board, a guy who was a veteran, who lived in TN for several months before starting school, and who signed an affadavit pledging intent to stay in the state permanently was denied in-state status by both The University of Memphis and the TN Board of Regents.
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Old 05-27-2011, 01:29 AM
 
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It's not necessarily going to work that way for you.

Unlike most other states, TN does not have a definite residency requirement for in-state tuition. Rather, if you want in-state tuition here, you have to show "clear and convincing evidence" that you permanently reside in Tennessee and that you did not move here for the purpose of going to college.

According to state law..."Unless the contrary appears from clear and convincing evidence, it shall be presumed that an emancipated person does not acquire domicile in this State while enrolled as a full-time student at any public or private higher educational institution in this State, as such as status is defined by such institution."

So not to rain on your parade, but your plan is probably not going to work. On the Memphis board, a guy who was a veteran, who lived in TN for several months before starting school, and who signed an affadavit pledging intent to stay in the state permanently was denied in-state status by both The University of Memphis and the TN Board of Regents.

Not going to contradict your good info (it's definitely a weird system), but one of my roommates in college listed his permanent address was a relative in Morristown, while his parents continued to live in Virginia....he paid in-state. He lived here...but he never went to high school here.

I think it would be reasonable to assume if you moved here for 2 whole years for CC (and possibly got a job) then you would definitely be considered for in-state tuition. If not, I think you would have a reasonable court case in your hands, if you lived and worked here for more than a year (and were financially independent).

Back to the OP....I'm guessing you're shopping between UT and MTSU (with Pellissippi State and Vol State as the CC's)...I think it goes down to your major. PERSONALLY....if you are looking into business, I think I would lean towards UT...especially if you consider grad school. UT's MBA is a great program. MTSU is a great communications school (and recording industry). For liberal arts, both schools are good, but MTSU is probably the better value...for business and technical (such as engineering) and medical and law, UT is the better choice. Actually Tennessee Tech is the best school most engineering...but I know that's not what you're looking at.
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Old 05-27-2011, 01:33 PM
 
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Nashvols --

It's a stupid system, imo, and leaves too much up to the interpretation of the person/school with whom you happen to be dealing; that's how you get one situation like the guy in Memphis and another situation like the one you referenced. The state really needs to do a better job of defining these things.

Re UT vs. MTSU -- I have no firsthand experience with either. However, I wonder if it's easier to transfer credits from a CC to MTSU than it is to transfer from a CC to UT. All of the state's CCs are part of the Board of Regents system, as is MTSU -- while UT is a different system altogether. I would suggest that the OP decide whether MTSU or UT is the ultimate destination before enrolling in CC. Then, by knowing which school you'd ultimately end up at, you'd be able to get a better idea of which classes will and will not transfer.

(All credits should transfer to UT or MTSU theoretically, but sometimes you'll find that the receiving school will only accept certain CC credits as electives because the CC classes do not resemble the receiving school's required classes closely enough. That happened to me years ago, and it was a pain in the neck. I ended up having to take the same class twice because the receiving school didn't agree with the CC's catalog description. The receiving school would only give me credit for an elective and made me take the class over again because it was a required course.)
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Old 05-27-2011, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Parkridge, East Knoxville, TN
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Pellissippi is top notch for preparing you for business school. I know a very successful MBA who started out there. Knoxville is the bomb too, way more manageable and livable than Nashville IMO
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Old 05-27-2011, 05:52 PM
 
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Nashvols --

It's a stupid system, imo, and leaves too much up to the interpretation of the person/school with whom you happen to be dealing; that's how you get one situation like the guy in Memphis and another situation like the one you referenced. The state really needs to do a better job of defining these things.

Re UT vs. MTSU -- I have no firsthand experience with either. However, I wonder if it's easier to transfer credits from a CC to MTSU than it is to transfer from a CC to UT. All of the state's CCs are part of the Board of Regents system, as is MTSU -- while UT is a different system altogether. I would suggest that the OP decide whether MTSU or UT is the ultimate destination before enrolling in CC. Then, by knowing which school you'd ultimately end up at, you'd be able to get a better idea of which classes will and will not transfer.

(All credits should transfer to UT or MTSU theoretically, but sometimes you'll find that the receiving school will only accept certain CC credits as electives because the CC classes do not resemble the receiving school's required classes closely enough. That happened to me years ago, and it was a pain in the neck. I ended up having to take the same class twice because the receiving school didn't agree with the CC's catalog description. The receiving school would only give me credit for an elective and made me take the class over again because it was a required course.)
I agree the system is rather stupid. I'm not sure why there are two different higher education systems...unless one was for CCs/trade schools/technology centers, and the other was for 4 year schools...but that isn't the case. The two systems should be united.

As for transferring credits...I think most basic classes will transfer...but I had a number of friends who despised UT's system (known as the Big Orange Screw) because of the difficulty of transferring credits, and the problems with graduation (they wouldn't tell you that you were short on a requirement until it was too late to add a class -- forcing you to either go to a summer session or add another semester).

In short, the academic guidance counseling at UT sucks. Not everyone is bad (I knew who to go to for the right advice)...but some of them are about as useful as a two-headed nail. It's really tough to get on the right track when the person who is supposed to be "knowledgeable" about the system doesn't know what they are doing. My brother graduated from MTSU, and spoke of no such problems there.

My own personal opinion would be that transfer credits would be safer at MTSU.
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Old 05-29-2011, 09:13 PM
 
Location: Knoxville, Tennessee
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That's weird. JMT always says there is no waiting period for instate tuition.

http://www.finaid.org/otheraid/stateresidency.phtml
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