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Old 02-04-2012, 08:22 PM
 
Location: southwest TN
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I have searched on the town level, the county level, and the state level to figure out what office would issue a building/construction permits and have no idea on what level one would be issued or where the records would be kept.

I am trying to find out who built the septic system to our property. When it was built, according to the closing documents, there was no septic plan on file. That is a problem being that we aren't there and cannot figure out the location of the tank (if any) and the lines in the field. So, my thought was to find the builder and locate the person who put in the system.

We didn't think about it until we tried to hire someone to install a pool and he said that he needed that info in order to know where NOT to locate the pool. Now we need that info and I have googled just about everything I can think of and it appears that it might be on the state level but I can't find a listing. Sure wish I had access to the blue pages of the phone book, but I do not.

HELP!
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Old 02-04-2012, 08:36 PM
 
Location: Brentwood, Tennessee
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In what town is your house located?
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Old 02-04-2012, 08:57 PM
 
Location: Brentwood, Tennessee
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You should ask at the county health department or environmental field office in your area and explain your issue.

The Official State of Tennessee's Department of Environment and Conservation, State Parks Website

Since septic tanks are under the Division of Groundwater Protection, they should at least tell you where to start. Let me know if that doesn't work.
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Old 02-04-2012, 09:04 PM
 
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If the house is in the city limits call the city, if it is in the county call the county. It may depend on where your home is located. Smaller more rural counties tend to rely on the state for more services whereas larger metro areas tend to do more things themselves. When you call try to reach out to the building department or permitting department. If they don't have records they should be able to tell you who does. It may be on file at TDEC (state).

I must say I'm not sure I'd rely on the paperwork on file to locate a pool. What if the paperwork is wrong? If the pool installer can't take precautions I would find another one that will.
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Old 02-04-2012, 09:43 PM
 
Location: southwest TN
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You should ask at the county health department or environmental field office in your area and explain your issue.

The Official State of Tennessee's Department of Environment and Conservation, State Parks Website

Since septic tanks are under the Division of Groundwater Protection, they should at least tell you where to start. Let me know if that doesn't work.
The house is in Bethel Springs/McNairy County. Thank you for this info. It's so difficult to get info from a dozen states away and not able to have a conversation on the phone or go in person.

Groundwater Protection is not a dept I would have looked at, nor Health Dept.

I followed the link and it sends me to Jackson regional office then to McNairy County Courthouse with a phone number and snail mail addy - sigh. I was hoping for an e-mail address. Correction: I looked again and there is a snail mail addy! Thanks so much. I will be writing to him in the morning. Being severely hearing impaired makes telephoning so very frustrating for both sides of the conversation.

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Old 02-04-2012, 10:12 PM
 
Location: On the plateau, TN
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Suggestion...have the tank pumped out and they shoud also be able to determine about where the field drains are....

If it's an old place out in the country....probably no permits or diagrams on file....
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Old 02-05-2012, 10:51 AM
 
Location: southwest TN
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There ARE no permits or diagrams on file. We know that as we received notification when we bought the house. That is not what I am looking to find. I am trying to find out the BUILDER or general contractor for the house so I can find out WHO installed the danged thing. Since nothing was filed, the only option is to go to the one who built it. To find that out, I need the contractor who either did the work or hired the specialist who installed the thing.

Having the tank pumped out only gets me to the tank and for that, I can have any handyman take a pipe and walk around the yard approximately 8 to 10 feet from the house looking for the green spot. Since we are in NYC, it's a little difficult to do this ourselves. We need to know EXACTLY where are the lines, not approximately so we don't dig up a line.
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Old 02-05-2012, 11:25 AM
 
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NY Annie,

If you find the builder or GC do you really think they have the paperwork as to where the lines were put and that they are accurate? If its a small builder with a good memory they might remember exactly where they put in your septic system, or they may not. I think you are better off having someone locate the septic and place your pool based around their findings.

Even in NYC construction isn't an exact science. When they go to upgrade or modernize old buildings they always find water mains that were never documented and the utility doesn't even know where the shutoff valves are. Possibly buried in concrete if they exist at all.
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Old 02-05-2012, 01:13 PM
 
Location: On the plateau, TN
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As MD has stated...The builder will more than likely not remember where the lines are. You will probably never even find the builder or who installed the septic system if there is no record on file....
Mine is on file BUT it is a hand drawn sketch and not even close to scale....

My suggestion was to .....
1. Pump out the tank....heaven knows when it was pumped out last - this will locate the tank and also it's condition.
2. He could also have a darn good idea where the lines are....

Lines could be found exactly with the right equipment, cameras, etc...but would be very costly....

Another thought...you must have a "general" idea where the lines are now.... If this drainfield winds up needing to be replaced in a new location....would the pool be in the way for a new drain field....
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Old 02-05-2012, 02:29 PM
 
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By the time NY Annie is done how much do you want to bet she settles on a hot tub by the house! ;^)
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