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Unread 03-10-2012, 07:32 PM
 
Location: Kingsport, TN
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How many coal seams in east Tennessee are above 2000'? And of these few, how many have already been mined? The environmentalists didn't do their homework this time. The 2000' stipulation pretty well strips the bill of any meaningfulness.
Incorrect. Essentially, the proposed bill prohibited "the commissioner from issuing or renewing a permit, certification, or variance that would allow surface coal mining operations to alter or disturb any ridge line above 2,000 feet elevation above sea level."
Bill Summary

Almost all of the coal mined in Tennessee comes from the Cumberland Plateau, which has an average elevation of about 2000'. But the main intent of the bill was to stop companies from lopping off ridgelines above 2000' to reach coal above, at, or below that elevation.

National Coal is mining Campbell County's Zeb Mountain using a technique called cross-ridge mining, in which the mountaintop is removed but the spoil (overburden removed in the process) is supposed to stay on the summit in roughly the original contours. This is the state's largest mountaintop mining operation.

Zeb Mountain is a site where companies use explosives to blast into mountains. It's happening more and more in Tennessee. NewsChannel 5 Investigates has identified nine current mines above 2,000 feet. Four new permits are under review. They're north of Knoxville in Campbell, Claiborne and Anderson counties. But most surprising to some lawmakers is that coal companies are planning large-scale mountain top mining in a state wildlife area.
NC5 Investigates Strip Mining In Tennessee
NC5 Investigates Coal Company's Environmental Record

Take a look at this site, especially the photo gallery and coal reserves maps, and note the elevations on those maps:
Coal Reserves for sale in East Tennessee

Coal mining is no longer the economic juggernaut it was at one time. Tourism, on the other hand, is a $15 billion industry in the Volunteer State. The mountains attract hunters, hikers, horseback riders and others who enjoy their rugged charms. East Tennessee is defined by its mountains. And anyone who has spent time at all in the mountains understands that anything that affects the ridgetops will affect the valleys for miles around.
Editorial: Feds must look at big picture on mining ban : Knoxville News Sentinel

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Unread 03-13-2012, 06:34 AM
 
Location: Elizabethton, TN
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I signed the petition! I wished this was up in the air before they cleared off an entire side of a mountain over here in Sevier County so they can build nothing but CABINS!! Everytime I see the mountain lite up by the cabin lights I get sick to my stomach and want to throw up. That's the whole reason why people come to Sevier County is to see our mountains- The Smoky Mountains. And you tear down it to build cabins? Sickening. I still don't understand why that happened and I still side other mountain sides getting cleared out. I am sure it will be more cabins.........
If this land demolition had been for any type of mineral extraction, the environmentalists would be pitching a fit. Perhaps when they've transformed Claiborne and Campbell County into a major tourist mecca, there will be less mountainside destruction in Sevier.
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Unread 03-14-2012, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Elizabethton, TN
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Incorrect. Essentially, the proposed bill prohibited "the commissioner from issuing or renewing a permit, certification, or variance that would allow surface coal mining operations to alter or disturb any ridge line above 2,000 feet elevation above sea level."
Bill Summary

Almost all of the coal mined in Tennessee comes from the Cumberland Plateau, which has an average elevation of about 2000'. But the main intent of the bill was to stop companies from lopping off ridgelines above 2000' to reach coal above, at, or below that elevation.

National Coal is mining Campbell County's Zeb Mountain using a technique called cross-ridge mining, in which the mountaintop is removed but the spoil (overburden removed in the process) is supposed to stay on the summit in roughly the original contours. This is the state's largest mountaintop mining operation.

Zeb Mountain is a site where companies use explosives to blast into mountains. It's happening more and more in Tennessee. NewsChannel 5 Investigates has identified nine current mines above 2,000 feet. Four new permits are under review. They're north of Knoxville in Campbell, Claiborne and Anderson counties. But most surprising to some lawmakers is that coal companies are planning large-scale mountain top mining in a state wildlife area.
NC5 Investigates Strip Mining In Tennessee
NC5 Investigates Coal Company's Environmental Record

Take a look at this site, especially the photo gallery and coal reserves maps, and note the elevations on those maps:
Coal Reserves for sale in East Tennessee

Coal mining is no longer the economic juggernaut it was at one time. Tourism, on the other hand, is a $15 billion industry in the Volunteer State. The mountains attract hunters, hikers, horseback riders and others who enjoy their rugged charms. East Tennessee is defined by its mountains. And anyone who has spent time at all in the mountains understands that anything that affects the ridgetops will affect the valleys for miles around.
Editorial: Feds must look at big picture on mining ban : Knoxville News Sentinel
Mountaintop mining in Tennessee, being on a relatively small scale, is a drop in the bucket compared to that in neighboring states. But the horses are already out of the barn. Decades of ridgeside strip mining have already contaminated the subterranean systems beyond repair, ruined the drinking water supplies and scarred the landscape with unsightly highwalls that run on and on for miles. But despite the government's lackadaisical enforcement of reclamation laws, scars from the earliest strip mining of the 1960's have largely healed. With mountaintop mining the reclamation process will occur in much less time, due to the more level terrain. In the coalfields of Virginia and Kentucky, housing projects, shopping centers and hospitals have been built on old mountaintop mining sites. Some of the more remote sites are now covered with abundant vegetation, including new stands of timber. Interestingly, the most massive earth-moving project in the history of eastern Kentucky received little notice from the environmental movement: namely, the re-construction of U.S. Highway 23 from Virginia to Ohio. Meanwhile, all stops were pulled in hindering construction of the Blue Ridge Parkway's final short segment in North Carolina.

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Unread 03-14-2012, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Midtown Memphis
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Sorry, what's your point? Are you arguing for the approval of mountaintop removal in TN?
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Unread 03-15-2012, 07:26 AM
 
Location: Elizabethton, TN
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Sorry, what's your point? Are you arguing for the approval of mountaintop removal in TN?
No.
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Unread 03-27-2012, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Kingsport, TN
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A House subcommittee Tuesday killed a bill seeking to ban mountaintop removal coal mining in Tennessee.

The House Conservation Subcommittee voted 6-4 to send the measure sponsored by Rep. Mike McDonald to a study committee after the Legislature adjourns for the year.

Mountaintop coal removal ban killed in Tennessee House - Kingsport Times-News
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