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Old 04-25-2013, 08:35 AM
 
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Well, Shelby County has 3 on the list and Davidson County has 2. A large portion of the Memphis Metro area is not in the state of Tennessee, so it is not really fair to say the Nashville metro has triple the number of good schools as the Memphis metro. I am sure the Nashville metro has more good public schools than the Memphis metro, but the disparity is not as bad as you are trying to convey. I would think that some of the best schools in MS are in the northern part of the state that are a part of the Memphis metro. There are also some good schools in eastern Arkansas.
The fact that the metro goes over state lines is a good point. I pulled up MS, and it only has 4 nationally ranked schools, none of which are in the Memphis suburbs.
There is one in the Jackson, MS area, two in Hattiesburg, and one on the coast.

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Arkansas does really well with 34 nationally ranked schools. The majority of those are in the Northwest part of the state (I would love to know how much money and support WalMart gives those schools. I would guess a lot as good schools in the area would help them attract good employees to move there.)
It looks like the closest ranked school to Memphis is in Helena, which is still more than 70 miles away, but it's part of the Memphis MSA, so that would bring the Memphis metro up to 4.

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Old 04-25-2013, 09:46 AM
 
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I am not sure how Desoto Central High in MS did not make the cut. Their metrics are on par with the 4 MS high schools that were nationally ranked, but they are not there for some reason.

It should also be noted that a few Tipton County High schools were nationally recognized (Brighton, Covington, Munford). Dyer County High and Gibson County High were also nationally recognized. They are slightly out of the Memphis MSA, but probably an equivalent distance to Memphis as some portions of the Nashville MSA (which is HUGE) to Nashville.
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Old 04-25-2013, 02:41 PM
 
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It should also be noted that a few Tipton County High schools were nationally recognized (Brighton, Covington, Munford). Dyer County High and Gibson County High were also nationally recognized. They are slightly out of the Memphis MSA, but probably an equivalent distance to Memphis as some portions of the Nashville MSA (which is HUGE) to Nashville.
That is an incorrect assumption. The most remote of the ranked high schools in Nashville's MSA is Thompson's Station which is 31 miles from downtown Nashville. Dyersburg is 77 miles from Memphis, and Gibson County HS is 117 miles from Memphis.

Besides, there were other high schools in Nashville's MSA that were nationally recognized, too, but just didn't make it into the top 10%: Dickson County, Lebanon, Oakland, Smyrna, and White House Heritage. Of those, the most remote is Dickson County which is 45 miles from downtown Nashville.
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Old 04-25-2013, 04:20 PM
 
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They are slightly out of the Memphis MSA, but probably an equivalent distance to Memphis as some portions of the Nashville MSA (which is HUGE) to Nashville.
Memphis's MSA is 79% of the size of the Nashville MSA.

To put it into geometric terms, if each were a perfect square, Memphis would be 70.6 miles by 70.6 miles, and Nashville would be 79.4 miles by 79.4 miles. Counties in Memphis's metro are a bit larger on average (553.8 sq mi) than Nashville's (450.2 sq mi)...I feel like sometimes Memphians assume that Nashville's greater number of counties means the metro is much more massive. That's not entirely true. Both are rather large.
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Old 04-25-2013, 08:42 PM
 
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Memphis' metro area is much more concentrated in Shelby County than Nashville's is in Davidson County. I don't have the stats on hand, but if I remember correctly, somewhere around 1/2 of the Memphis MSA's population resides in Shelby County. Somewhere around 1/3 of the Nashville MSA's population resides in Davidson County.

Doesn't really matter, though. I'm not sure why people on this board are obsessed with being down on Memphis. Nashville has lots of great things and lots of advantages. Let Shelby County (rightfully) be happy with leading the state in the number of top schools on this list. I mean, really. Does it hurt your feelings that much?
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Old 04-25-2013, 08:51 PM
 
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Memphis' metro area is much more concentrated in Shelby County than Nashville's is in Davidson County. I don't have the stats on hand, but if I remember correctly, somewhere around 1/2 of the Memphis MSA's population resides in Shelby County. Somewhere around 1/3 of the Nashville MSA's population resides in Davidson County.
This isn't the right thread for it...but those stats are misleading as well. Memphis is more dense, I won't argue that. But using Shelby vs. Davidson is kind of silly, because Davidson County is about 260 square miles smaller in size. Davidson actually passed Shelby in population density...but again, that doesn't really tell the whole story because both counties have huge sections that are completely undeveloped rural land.

If you want to discuss it further, I'll gladly contribute to the conversation...in another thread.
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Old 04-25-2013, 09:21 PM
 
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Memphis' metro area is much more concentrated in Shelby County than Nashville's is in Davidson County. I don't have the stats on hand, but if I remember correctly, somewhere around 1/2 of the Memphis MSA's population resides in Shelby County. Somewhere around 1/3 of the Nashville MSA's population resides in Davidson County.

Doesn't really matter, though. I'm not sure why people on this board are obsessed with being down on Memphis. Nashville has lots of great things and lots of advantages. Let Shelby County (rightfully) be happy with leading the state in the number of top schools on this list. I mean, really. Does it hurt your feelings that much?
Shelby County did not lead the state. The leading county is Williamson. Five of the 8 high schools in Williamson County made the list.

Knox County also has 3. And Knox has half the population of Shelby County. Knoxville also has 2 more in its suburbs, Memphis does not.

Hopefully when all the school district mess gets worked out in Memphis it will help create more good school choices for the area.
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Old 04-26-2013, 04:36 AM
 
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Also it's my impression that Memphis and Shelby Co have not yet officially merged so really Shelby county had 2 schools on the list and Memphis City schools had 1. It would be unfair to lump them together in my opinion.
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Old 04-26-2013, 08:03 AM
 
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One thing getting lost in this discussion is how well East Tennessee did.

East Tennessee has the most schools and most school districts represented.

East TN- 11 schools, 7 school districts

Middle- 9 schools, 4 school districts

West- 3 schools, 2 school districts
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Old 04-26-2013, 08:46 AM
 
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One thing getting lost in this discussion is how well East Tennessee did.

East Tennessee has the most schools and most school districts represented.

East TN- 11 schools, 7 school districts

Middle- 9 schools, 4 school districts

West- 3 schools, 2 school districts
It looks like maybe you're putting Cookeville in East Tennessee instead of Middle Tennessee. There are actually 10 schools/7 districts in East Tennessee and 10 schools/5 districts in Middle Tennessee.

I'm glad you brought this up, though, because I think it's interesting to see that in all of West Tennessee there are no ranked schools outside of Shelby County, whereas Middle and East Tennessee each has a non-metropolitan district represented: Greeneville city schools (East) and Putnam County schools (Middle). It's also interesting to see that, for all the grief we often give to Morristown, it's impressive that they have a top-10% high school.
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