07-21-2015, 07:57 AM
Location: Vernon, NJ
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JMT, I know your opinion already.
Ok, so we are moving down to TN within the next few weeks. I work in Real Estate so I can pretty much move wherever within reason. We have visited TN twice now and driven all over the place. We first loved Chattanooga but the suburbs are either a little too pricey or far too crowded. Coming from NJ, that is saying something.
The Knoxville area was a lot of the same. We liked Farragut but many of the other places we drove through were either overcrowded or needed to be slightly revitalized. That and although we could afford to live in Farragut, we seemed a little out of our element. We did look at Maryville based on reviews and suggestions but that wasn't really our cup of tea either.
So, that brought us to the Crossville/Cookeville area where just by pure circumstance we happened to be staying for the week. We actually really loved the area. JMT, close your eyes for a minute lol. We actually preferred the Crossville area because it seemed more up and coming, not overcrowded, nice communities, it had all of the daily necessities, an infrastructure to not get overbuilt, and we like the distance to Knoxville, Chattanooga and Nashville. One thing not going for it is a job market. Coming from the Northeast, I am used to commuting but having something a little more local would be nice.
That brings us to the Tri-Cities area. This is the one area that we have not visited yet and that is because of its distance to everything. It seems like a nice place to live, nice homes and communities, parks and playgrounds, job market is slightly better, things to do in town, etc. However, our main issue with this area is its pure distance to everything. A day drip to the Zoo just became over 2 hours longer compared to the Crossville/Cookeville area, trips to the aquarium in Chattanooga will be almost completely out, and going to see a NFL or NHL game or concert in Nashville just isn't going to happen. Granted these would be things we would do maybe 10 times a year total but they would still be nice to do.
Any opinions would be nice. I actually have some job interviews coming up this week so we will be back in town looking around. I am going on interviews so that I could see what else is in the area since my brokerage would be in Knoxville if in Crossville/Cookeville but in Johnson City & Kingsport if in Tri-Cities. Yes, I know I could switch brokerages but I'd rather work solely from home than switch from KW. Thank you in advance for all help and insight.
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07-21-2015, 08:36 AM
Location: A Yankee in northeast TN
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Hi Mark
I moved to the tri several years ago and I can say that the people that live here are used to 'commuting' to the bigger cities for their entertainment much the same way some people are used to commuting to their jobs. In other words they don't think twice about a one or two hour trip to one of the larger cities. Also,while living in Memphis it was not uncommon for it to take me 45 minutes to get from one end of the city to the other so I guess I don't think a two hour trip once a month or so is that out there time wise.
You can throw Asheville into the mix of places that will be within an hour or two, so that will give you a few more entertainment options there too.
07-21-2015, 09:04 AM
Location: Johnson City, TN
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The Tri-Cities has a decent number of entertainment options for a region its size but you're right in that it will be a longer drive compared to living in a bigger city. That's just one of the trade-offs in exchange for less traffic and a lower cost of living. You really learn to appreciate what is in your backyard and make the best of it.
The mountains provide abundant recreational opportunities, there are Division I college sports at ETSU and Rookie league minor league baseball teams in all of the Tri-Cities. ETSU is getting ready to build a performing arts center that will (hopefully) bring in national touring events and Greeneville's Niswonger Performing Arts Center already brings in national acts.
Asheville is a great place to go for a quick getaway and is only an hour from Johnson City. While it isn't much bigger than JC it is a very unique place. Charlotte is less than 3 hours away (closer than Nashville) and is the closest city with major league sports teams. Atlanta is about 4 hours away.
You really should come check out the Tri-Cities as it tends to fly under the radar a bit and all of the cities in the region have their own unique character and are quite different. You're bound to find something you'll like.
07-21-2015, 09:06 AM
Location: Vernon, NJ
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DubbleT, Thanks for the reply. I guess my concern is that commuting 45 min to work isn't really a big deal for me. I've done that for over 13 years. Commuting 1 1/2 hrs to Knoxville for work isn't going to happen. Also, right now we can get to the Zoo in just over an hour, 2 different Aquariums in just under 2 hours, and I can get to Giants Stadium, Yankee Stadium, and Prudential Center in under an hour. I know that when I move all of those things will not be as close. My concern is for them to be so far that I have no desire to go. I know that people of the region are probably used to it.
What I am trying to find out about the areas is which people would prefer to live and what pros and cons there may be other than the ones I can already see and again, having not even seen Johnson City yet. If all else is equal or close to it, then distance will definitely play a big role.
07-21-2015, 09:13 AM
Location: Vernon, NJ
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Rangerred, I didn't even think about the distance to Charlotte. That is a great point. I had seen signs for NPAC but didn't know what they actually had going on there. National acts would definitely be a plus.
We drove through Asheville during our area hunting and liked the city but just didn't see ourselves living there. Visiting would definitely be a plus though even if it costs an arm and a leg to get into the Biltmore.
We will definitely have to check out the area this weekend to compare.
07-21-2015, 09:35 AM
Location: Jonesborough, TN
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I love the Tri Cities. I just want to point out that there is a privately held zoo in Limestone, TN called Brights Zoo. It is smaller than Knoxville of course, but it is very nicely done and you get a much more personal interaction with the animals. There is also Creation Kingdom Zoo that I have never been to but everyone that I have spoken with says it is nice.
There is also an aquarium in Gatlinburg which is less than 2 hours away. I personally prefer it to the larger Chattanooga aquarium.
Finally, I really enjoy ETSU sports. It's not professional, but it is Division 1 level athletics. The football team is starting back up from a 10 year break and there is a lot of excitement (they basically sold out the first season just with season ticket holders), and basketball is a very entertaining environment for both men and women.
I will point out that the area is way over-saturated with real estate professionals. I am a part-time realtor in the area and I would say that a very low percentage of realtors are actually making a living at it in this area. Having said that, I hear that is the case everywhere in that profession.
07-21-2015, 09:50 AM
Location: Vernon, NJ
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I will point out that the area is way over-saturated with real estate professionals. I am a part-time realtor in the area and I would say that a very low percentage of realtors are actually making a living at it in this area. Having said that, I hear that is the case everywhere in that profession.[/quote]
JChometeam, not everywhere by any means. Try KW, it might change your opinion on how to get the job done and stand out among the masses. I also doubt you can get many more realtors than in Northern NJ which houses a ton of suburbs of NYC plus its own businesses. If we do choose the Johnson City area then all I would have to say is that in the immortal words of Barney Stinson, "Challenge Accepted". lol
07-21-2015, 10:23 AM
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If we're to throw in distances to major cities, then Cookeville is closer to Nashville and Atlanta than the Tri Cities are to Charlotte and Atlanta. They're about the same distance from Knoxville, and Cookeville is half the distance to Chattanooga. Like Johnson City, Cookeville also has NCAA Division 1 sports, and its university, Tennessee Tech, is higher rated than ETSU.
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Cookeville is less than an hour from Nashville International Airport which has about 5 times the flights and much cheaper air fares than the Tri Cities and Knoxville airports combined. If you want to take advantage of a cheap Southwest sale to out west or catch a nonstop flight to Utah's ski slopes then you're out of luck in the Tri Cities or Knoxville. This proximity to Nashville also mans that Cookeville is closer to things like the NFL, NHL, AAA baseball, SEC and NCAA basketball tournaments, and a college football bowl game, not to mention the bajillion concerts that Nashville offers that Charlotte can't even touch. Nashville's Bridgestone Arena was just ranked yesterday as being the 2nd busiest in the entire country, even busier than Madison Square Garden, and that doesn't include its sporting and other non-musical events. For national music acts, both home grown and touring, Nashville is hard to beat.
I really, really like Johnson City. But if a supposed benefit to living in JC is that it's only 3 hours from Charlotte, then it seems that Cookeville's much closer proximity to Nashville is even better.
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07-21-2015, 07:19 PM
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Mark, since you prefer Crossville to Cookeville this was my same thoughts over 9 years ago and they are the same today.....
Crossville is less crowded and has most of everything for your daily needs. Cooler on the plateau in the summer. Cheaper taxes in Cumberland county is a plus also.
Does get a little crowded sometimes with the wildlife....coyotes get a little noisy at times....
Good luck with the job interviews....
07-21-2015, 07:22 PM
Location: Vernon, NJ
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Mark, since you prefer Crossville to Cookeville this was my same thoughts over 9 years ago and they are the same today.....
Crossville is less crowded and has most of everything for your daily needs. Cooler on the plateau in the summer. Cheaper taxes in Cumberland county is a plus also.
Does get a little crowded sometimes with the wildlife....coyotes get a little noisy at times....
Good luck with the job interviews....
Bones, Thank you very much. I appreciate the good feelings towards Crossville as well. I don't mind the coyotes. We have black bear walking through our yard fairly regularly so we are used to wildlife. lol
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Most Common Occupations - Protective service occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Fire fighting and prevention, and other protective service workers including supervisors (%)
Most Common Occupations - Law enforcement workers including supervisors (%)
Most Common Occupations - Food preparation and serving related occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Building and grounds cleaning and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Personal care and service occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Sales and office occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Sales and related occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Office and administrative support occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Natural resources, construction, and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Farming, fishing, and forestry occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Construction and extraction occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Installation, maintenance, and repair occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production, transportation, and material moving occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Transportation occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)